How Are Θ, ø, R, and ρ Connected in a Rolling Half-Pipe?

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between the angles Θ and ø, and the radii R and ρ in a skateboard half-pipe scenario involving a rolling bicycle wheel. The key connection is that as the wheel rolls without slipping, the angle Θ represents the position of the wheel's center relative to the vertical, while ø indicates the rotation of the wheel. Understanding these relationships is crucial for setting up the Lagrangian, which is expressed as L = T - U, where T is kinetic energy and U is potential energy. The participant seeks clarification on defining these angles to proceed with the problem-solving process. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately relating these variables to derive the equations of motion.
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Homework Statement


Suppose we have a skateboard half-pipe. The half-pipe has a radius R. We take a bicycle wheel of radius ρ and let it roll into the half-pipe. The wheel rolls without slipping ( and doesn't fall over, of course). Let Θ be the angle from the vertical to the line connecting the center of the half-pipe to the center of the bicycle wheel, and ø the angle the bicycle wheel has rotated.

(a) how are Θ,ø, R and ρ connected if the wheel rotates without slipping?

(b) Find the Lagrangian for the bicycle wheel. Use your answer from the previous part to simplify the Lagrangian.


Homework Equations



L= T-U
where L is the Lagrangian, T is the kinetic engery, and U is the potential energy



The Attempt at a Solution



I am very familiar with how to evaluate and set up lagrangians. However i am having trouble figuring out how to relate the variables for part a. I know the potential will be in the form of U=mgh and how to take partials to get the equations of motion.

It may be that i am confused about the angle Θ and where it is defined. something just isn't clicking. Any point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. mostly i just need another mind to help me decipher how to do this. Once i get the relationships i should be good to continue on.


Thanks so much for all the help,

Eric
 
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Hi Eric, welcome to PF!

Imagine that a line is painted across the wheel, and it is vertical when the wheel is at the bottom of the tube. φ is the angle that line encloses with the vertical as shown in the figure, and θ is the angle showing the position of the centre of the wheel with respect to the vertical.

The wheel spins around its axis, and the centre of the wheel moves along a circle around the centre of the tube.

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