Convergent Sequences on l infinity

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the spaces \( R^\infty_f \) and \( l^\infty \), specifically focusing on the closure of \( R^\infty_f \) and its relationship with the space \( c_0 \), which consists of sequences converging to zero.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the idea of demonstrating that \( R^\infty_f \) is not closed in \( l^\infty \) by identifying a convergent sequence within \( l^\infty \) that does not belong to \( R^\infty_f \). There is also a discussion on how to show that every sequence in \( c_0 \) can be represented as a limit of sequences in \( R^\infty_f \).

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the definitions and implications of convergence in the context of normed spaces. Some have suggested that while \( c_0 \) is a subset of the closure of \( R^\infty_f \), further clarification is needed to establish the entirety of the closure. The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking to deepen their understanding of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and properties of the spaces involved, particularly regarding convergence and limits within the framework of abstract normed spaces. Participants are navigating the implications of these definitions without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Define [itex]R^\infty_f = \{ (t^{(1}),t^{(2}), \ldots, ) |\; t^{(i}) \in \mathbb{R}\; \forall i, \; \exists k_0 \text{ such that } t^{(k})=0 \; \forall k\geq k_0 \}[/itex]

Define [itex]l^\infty = \{ (t^{(1}),t^{(2}), \ldots, ) |\; t^{(i}) \in \mathbb{R}\; \forall i, \; \sup_{k\geq 1} | t^{(k})| < \infty \}[/itex]

Observe that [itex]R^\infty_f[/itex] is a linear subspace of [itex]l^\infty[/itex]. Show that [itex]R^\infty_f[/itex] is not closed in [itex]l^\infty[/itex], then show that the closure of [itex]R^\infty_f[/itex] is the space [itex]c_0[/itex];

Homework Equations



The space c_0 is the set of all sequences converging to zero


The Attempt at a Solution



It's not too hard to show that this set is not closed. It suffices to show that there is a convergent sequence in [itex]l^\infty[/itex] such that every term is in [itex]R^\infty_f[/itex], but whose limit is not in [itex]R^\infty_f[/itex]. I constructed the following sequence

[itex]x_1 = (1, 0, \ldots, )[/itex]
[itex]x_2 = (1, \frac{1}{2}, 0 , \ldots, )[/itex]
[itex]\vdots[/itex]
[itex]x_n = (1, \ldots, \frac{1}{n}, 0, \ldots} )[/itex]

which converges to the point [itex]a = (1, \frac{1}{2}, \ldots, \frac{1}{n-1}, \frac{1}{n}, \frac{1}{n+1}, \ldots )[/itex]

It's the closure part that I'm worried about. I'm not terribly sure how I would go about showing that...
 
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It will suffice to show that every sequence in c_0 is a limit of sequences in R_f. Do you agree?
 
Yes, since every point in c_0 will necessarily be the limit of some sequence in R_f. Though I think that this only shows that c_0 is a subset of the closure - not necessarily the whole closure.
 
Yes, but on the other hand, R_f clearly sits in c_0 (and c_0 is closed!).
 
True enough.

So I need to show that every sequence in c_0 is a limit of sequences in R_f.

How do I show that every sequence that converges to zero is the limit of a sequence. Indeed, what does it mean for a sequence to be a limit of another sequence?
 
Think of this as a problem set in an abstract normed space. What does it mean for a sequence {x_n} to converge to x?
 

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