Conveyor belt and friction- Determine slip time

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The discussion revolves around calculating the slip time of packages on a conveyor belt that accelerates at a constant rate. The key parameters include a pulley radius of 300mm, an acceleration of 150 mm/s², and a coefficient of friction of 0.75. The calculated slip time for the first package is determined to be 11.32 seconds. Participants are debating whether to use Cartesian or polar coordinates for their calculations, with some uncertainty about the relevance of the pulley radius in the equations. The conversation highlights the need to incorporate static friction into the acceleration calculations effectively.
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Homework Statement


A series of small packages is moved by a conveyor belt that passes

over a 300mm radius pulley. The belt starts from rest at t=0 and its

speed increases at a constant rate of 150 mm/s2. The

coefficient of friction is μ=0.75. Determine the time the first

package slips.

Answer: ts=11.32s

conveyor%20belt%20friction.jpg


Homework Equations


V_{0}=0
r_{pulley}=300mm
a_{pulley}=150mm/s^{2}
\mu=0.75

These are equations for polar coordinates, which I'm thinking I may need to use to solve the problem.
F_{r}=ma_{r}
F_{\theta}=ma_{\theta}
F_{net}=F_{r}{\bf e}_{r}+F_{\theta}{\bf e}_{\theta}

m(\ddot{r}-r\dot{\theta}^{2})=F_{r}
m(r\ddot{\theta}+2\dot{r}\dot{\theta})=F_{\theta}

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all, I'm trying to decide if I should use cartesian, polar, or path coordinates for this problem.

If cartesian coordinates work, then I would set the problem up as below. Also, I don't think the radius of the pulley would matter...?

Sum of forces x-dir = -Fs+Fpulley=ma
Sum of forces y-dir = N-mg=0 -----> N=mg

The maximum static friction would be Fssmg.

For polar or path coordinates, I wouldn't know where to start.
 
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I'm getting closer... I think.

I actually think I can solve this without using polar or path coordinates.

So, for constant linear acceleration, we have:

vf2=vi2+2a(x2-x1)

Because x2-x1 is really 2πr (arc length), we have:

vf2=vi2+2a(2πr)

I can solve this for vf and then plug that into vf=vi+at to get time... But I'm missing something with the whole Fssmg=ma... Like it should factor into the acceleration value for the two formulas above. Any help?
 
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