Cooling of bottle, beyond homework

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To cool a bottle's liquid from 22 °C to 12 °C in an 8 °C river, the discussion revolves around applying Newton's Law of Cooling and understanding the heat transfer equations. The key equation involves the rate of temperature change being proportional to the temperature difference between the bottle and the river. Participants suggest modifying the heat transfer equation to account for time dependence, leading to a differential equation for temperature change. Resources for further learning, including examples of Newton's Law of Cooling, are recommended for better understanding. The conversation emphasizes the importance of applying these principles to solve the cooling problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


For how long you have to let bottle in a river, if you want to cool a liquid inside from 22 °C to 12 °C, when river is 8 °C?

Homework Equations


Q=cm(T1-T2), Qc=l*S(T-Triver)/d *t

The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to solve it for a case when we substitute in equation Qc for conduction of heat T by average temperature of bottle from starting and finishing state. But I believe it should be possible to solve it as a differential equation for changing "T" in Qc. But I don't know how to find out dependency T(t), t- time. Or should I do it some other way?

Thank you for your help and advice.
 
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Have you taken a look at Newton's Law of Cooling?
 
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gneill said:
Have you taken a look at Newton's Law of Cooling?
Hello, thank you for response. No I didn't till now :) I'm looking for some relevant site, best is with some already solved problem, I could learn from it. Or what do you suggest?
 
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Hello, thank you for response. No I didn't till now :) I'm looking for some relevant site, best is with some already solved problem, I could learn from it. Or what do you suggest?
I suggest a web search on "Newtons Law of Cooling example" :smile:
 
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Hello, thank you for response. No I didn't till now :) I'm looking for some relevant site, best is with some already solved problem, I could learn from it. Or what do you suggest?
It seems relevant T-T0=(T-T0)exp(-kt). But I gues it is solution of some differential equation.
 
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It seems relevant T-T0=(T-T0)exp(-kt). But I gues it is solution of some differential equation.
It is. You can find its derivation on the web easily. It begins with the rate of temperature change being proportional to the difference in temperature between the object and its environment.
 
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You have the two equations in your Relevant Equations. You just need to modify the first one a little to take into account the time dependence. Using your symbols, the transient heat balance is:
$$cm\frac{dT}{dt}=-l*S(T-T_{river})/d$$
where l is the thermal conductivity. This is the Newton cooling equation identified by gneill.

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