Could computers be made more powerful by using smartphone technology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for enhancing computer performance by leveraging smartphone technology. Participants explore the implications of using advanced smartphone components, such as stacked chips, in laptops and desktops, while considering economic and technical factors influencing this integration.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that smartphones, like the Galaxy S3, can perform tasks comparably to laptops, suggesting that smartphone technology could enhance desktop and laptop performance.
  • Another participant argues that while smartphones utilize computer technology, their operating systems are simpler, which may limit their applicability in more complex computing environments.
  • A participant highlights the use of stacked chips in smartphones as a significant advancement that could potentially be applied to computers, emphasizing the economic and supply chain challenges in mass production.
  • Concerns are raised about the economic feasibility of integrating smartphone technology into computers, with one participant asserting that economic factors dominate the semiconductor industry.
  • One participant questions the comparison between smartphones and laptops, suggesting that differences in hardware specifications and system health may skew performance perceptions.
  • Another participant reiterates that modern computers are generally more powerful than smartphones, but they may have higher overhead, affecting performance in certain tasks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the feasibility and implications of using smartphone technology in computers. While some support the idea of leveraging smartphone advancements, others question the practicality and performance comparisons between devices.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide specific details about the laptops being compared, which may affect the validity of performance claims. Additionally, the discussion reflects varying perspectives on the economic and technical challenges of integrating smartphone technology into traditional computing.

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So I just got a galaxy s3 and the performance is amazing. It can browse the internet just as fast as my laptop and do other things just as well. I was wondering if laptop or desktop engineers could cram in much more hardware than they already do by using shrunken smartphone technology.
 
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Smartphones are using computer technology - chipsets and OS. I believe the OS is simpler than that found in a computer though.

More powerful computers are made multiple cores and the appropriate supporting hardware and OS/apps.
 
Definitely yes. Some smartphones are among the first commercial products to use stacked chips. That's where they actually stack one chip right on top of another to reduce space, power requirements, and latencies. It is also possible to place several chips side-by-side on a thin silicon "transposer" to achieve similar results and to combine transposers with stacked chips. Like many other advances the first applications of the technology are for the most expensive portable items. Here's a thread I started on the subject:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=618354

I didn't go into all the motivations and technical reasons for these trends, but suffice it to say the semiconductor industry is particularly brute force oriented and ruled by economic concerns. These days it is even supply line concerns that seem to dominate much of the industry. It just doesn't matter if you have the most advanced technology in the world if you can't mass produce it and bring it to market fast.

Rumor has it Intel's Haswell chip coming out next year has 3-5 times the graphics processing power of their current offerings, when normally you can expect at most 15-20% improvement, and that's without resorting like may smartphones do to using simplified processors made for specific applications.
 
Yes , but it can't be mass produced.Its all about economic concerns.
+1 for the above post.
 
The O.P. doesn't even tell us what kind of laptop he has, or what its hardware specs are. That being said a smartphone is just a small computer with a simpler low-overhead operating system, and for surfing the internet it will be pretty fast (of course probably not as good on complex all-flash websites though).

There's nothing "magic" about smart phones, modern computers are FAR more powerful BUT they can have a lot more overhead too. Let us know how fast your phone is in a year after you've installed 300 apps and have had a few OS updates...
 
adamnation said:
So I just got a galaxy s3 and the performance is amazing. It can browse the internet just as fast as my laptop and do other things just as well. I was wondering if laptop or desktop engineers could cram in much more hardware than they already do by using shrunken smartphone technology.

No offence meant, but that's because your laptop is in some way old or broken and you are comparing systems of different health or generations. The S3 is actually more expensive than a low end laptop in any case.
 

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