Coulomb's Law (3 charges in equilateral triangle)

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The problem involves three charged particles positioned at the corners of an equilateral triangle, with specific charge values and a defined side length. The task is to calculate the net force on one of the charges due to the other two, considering both magnitude and direction.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Coulomb's law to calculate forces acting on one charge from the others, converting charge units and determining force components. Some participants question the interpretation of negative force values and their implications regarding direction and attraction.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the meaning of negative force values and their relevance to the direction of the forces. There is a focus on understanding the geometry of the problem and how it affects the calculation of force components. No consensus has been reached, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the implications of charge signs and the geometry of the equilateral triangle, which may affect their understanding of force directions and components. There is a reminder about forum etiquette regarding response times.

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Three charged particles are placed at the corners of an equilateral triangle of side L = 1.74 m.
The charges are q1 = 3.63 µC, q2 = −8.05 µC, and q3 = −6.31 µC. Calculate the magnitude and direction (counterclockwise from the positive x axis) of the net force on q1 due to the other two charges.

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First, I converted the charges from µC to C

q1 = 3.63e-6 C
q2 = -8.05e-6 C
q3 = -6.31e-6 C

Then I used Coulomb's law to figure out the forces on q1 from the other 2 charges

F21 = the force applied to charge 1 by charge 2
F31 = the force applied to charge 1 by charge 3
r = the distance between each charge = 1.74m

F21 = K*q1*q2 / r2
= (8.998e9)(3.63e-6)(-8.05e-6) / 1.742
= -0.0868 N

F31 = (8.998e9)(3.63e-6)(-6.31e-6) / 1.742
= -0.0681 N

Now because these forces applied are on the diagonal of that equilateral triangle, I must find the x and y components of the forces. The angle inside any equilateral triangle is 60 degrees, so I'm using 60 for my trig here.

x

(-0.0868 * cos60) + (-0.0681 * cos60) = -0.0774 N

y

(-0.0868 * sin60) + (-0.0681 * sin60) = -0.134 N

To find the magnitude, I've been adding the square of the x and y component, then taking the square root of it.

sqrt[(-0.0774 N)2 + (-0.134 N)2] = 0.155 N

I'm not sure if this is correct, nor am I sure how to get the direction in degrees. This method of finding the force makes sense to me but I need to submit both the magnitude and direction at the same time to get the answer correct.

Please help!
 
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The magnitude of the forces is positive, the - sign indicates that the force acts towards the other charge. Draw the individual forces. Do the x components have the same (negative) sign? ehild
 
Not quite sure I understand what you mean by - sign indicating that the force acts towards the other charge. Care to explain a little further?
 
You wrote that F21 = -0.0868 N and F31= -0.0681 N. Are those forces parallel? What does the negative sign mean?
You also considered both x components negative. With respect to what?

ehild
 
I was just going under what the question gave me in terms of q2 and q3's charges. They are both negative charges, therefor wouldn't the Force come out negative just in terms of signage? I suppose this is where I'm confused about the question.
 
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BMcC said:
I was just going under what the question gave me in terms of q2 and q3's charges. They are both negative charges, therefor wouldn't the Force come out negative just in terms of signage? I suppose this is where I'm confused about the question.

All that the negative sign means is that the force is attractive.

You need to use the geometry of the problem to get the components of the Force(s) .
 
The forces have direction, (see picture) determine the x and y components accordingly.


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