Cutting a spring in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4

In summary, the conversation discusses a system consisting of a helical spring cut into two halves and connected to a mass, and the natural time period of this system. It is found that if an identical spring is cut into two parts with one being one-fourth and the other being three-fourths of the original length, and the mass is connected to both parts, the natural period of the system is doubled. This is due to the doubling of the spring constant when the length is halved. Furthermore, the conversation also discusses why the textbook uses series of springs instead of parallel springs in this scenario, which is because the work is done in two steps
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Dustinsfl
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Homework Statement


A helical spring of stiffness k is cut into two halves and a mass m is connected to the two halves. The natural time period of this system is found to be 0.5 sec. If an identical spring is cut so that one part is one-fourth and the other part is three-fourths of the original length, and the mass m is connected to the two parts, what would be the natural period of the system?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Attached is the solution. Why is k2 = 4k? I understand the solution up until that point.

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Oh wait, I think I misunderstood the question.

F=kx => k =F/x and if we halve x we double k.

So basically if you take a spring, with some number N coils and stretch it by some length x, each winding or coil stretches by a factor of x/N. Now halve N (you're cutting the spring in half). Stretch the spring by the same length, each coil now stretches by a factor of 2x/N, effectively doubling the spring constant. (It takes 2x as much force to stretch or compress the spring by the same amount)
 
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Dustinsfl said:
You link provides no useful information to the question I asked.
Yea, sorry about that.
 
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Why did the textbookuse series of spring and not parallell springs Keq=k1+K2?
 
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killercrew said:
Why did the textbookuse series of spring and not parallell springs Keq=k1+K2?
Not sure which step you are referring to.
The working has two stages. First, we need to find the effective k of each section of the cut spring. E.g. for the 1/4:3/4 split:
We can think of the uncut spring as these two sections in series:
##\frac 1k=\frac 1{k_{\frac 14}}+\frac 1{k_{\frac 34}}##.
Using the argument in post #4, we know that ##k_{\frac 14}=4k##. Substituting that leads to ##k_{\frac 34}=\frac 43k##.
In the second stage, we consider inserting the mass between the two sections. At the mass, for a given displacement, the two forces add. This is the same as for springs in parallel, so we use ##k_{net}=k_{\frac 14}+k_{\frac 34}##.
 
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killercrew said:
Why did the textbookuse series of spring and not parallell springs Keq=k1+K2?

I have thought this until I recognized this:
The work is done on two steps for each case (taking the first case as an example):
- finding the new spring constant (k1) for each sector w.r.t the previous stiffness (k)... which make him use series leadind to (k1 = 2 k)
- finding the equivalent stiffness for the whole system (4k)... and then completing other steps
 

1. How does cutting a spring in half affect its tension?

When a spring is cut in half, the tension in each half of the spring will be reduced by half as well. This is because the tension in a spring is directly proportional to its length, so cutting it in half will result in half the tension.

2. Will cutting a spring in 1/4 and 3/4 affect its overall length?

Yes, cutting a spring in 1/4 and 3/4 will affect its overall length. When a spring is cut, the total length of the spring will remain the same, but the individual lengths of the two halves will change. Cutting a spring in 1/4 and 3/4 will result in one half being three times longer than the other half.

3. How does cutting a spring in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4 affect its elasticity?

Cutting a spring in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4 will decrease its elasticity. This is because elasticity is directly proportional to the length of a spring, so cutting it will result in a decrease in elasticity. However, the spring will still retain some degree of elasticity even after being cut.

4. Will cutting a spring in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4 change its natural frequency?

Yes, cutting a spring in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4 will change its natural frequency. The natural frequency of a spring is determined by its length and tension, so cutting it will result in a change in both of these factors. The new natural frequency will be lower than the original frequency.

5. Is it possible to reassemble a spring after cutting it in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4?

Yes, it is possible to reassemble a spring after cutting it in half and then in 1/4 and 3/4. However, the spring will not have the same tension and elasticity as before it was cut. The reassembled spring will also have a new natural frequency, which may be lower than the original frequency.

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