Damped Resonance Frequency OF series LCR circuit

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The discussion centers on the damped resonance frequency of a series LCR circuit, exploring the conditions for resonance, the effects of damping, and the derivation of related equations. Participants examine both driven and undriven systems, as well as the differences between undamped and damped resonance frequencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for current in a series LCR circuit and states that resonance occurs when the inductive reactance equals the capacitive reactance, leading to a specific frequency.
  • Another participant questions the assumptions made regarding the driving voltage and clarifies the distinction between undamped and damped resonant frequencies, emphasizing the role of damping in oscillations.
  • A third participant notes the difference between the frequency of an undamped oscillator and that of a free damped oscillator, suggesting that these frequencies are relevant in the context of resonance.
  • A fourth participant references external resources, including a swept frequency plot and Wikipedia, to provide additional context on the behavior of voltage-driven and current-driven circuits.

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Participants express differing views on the assumptions regarding driving voltage and the definitions of resonance frequencies, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the derivation of the damped resonance frequency and the specific conditions under which different frequencies apply, depending on whether the system is driven or free.

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the solution for current I, for series LCR circuit is
I = (E/Z)sin(wt+\phi)
Where Z = \sqrt{R^2 + (X_{L}-X_{C})^{2}}
So for Resonance (i.e. maximum Current Amplitude) of LCR Circuit the necessary condition seems to be
X_{L}=X_{C}
Which gives \omega=1/\sqrt{LC}

But some text-books and wikipaedia have given that the damped resonace frequency is
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where
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How is this relation Derived ?
 
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Not sure about your solution. What driving voltage are you assuming?

Anyway the undamped resonant frequency is the frequency the undriven system would oscillate with when there is no damping (R=0). When the system is underdamped and undriven then its oscillations consist of a sinusoidal component multiplied by an exponentially decaying envelope. The frequency of the sinusoidal terms in this expression is called the damped resonant frequency. It is found just by solving the harmonic motion equations with a damping term and then identifying the sinusoidal component.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping" for how to do this for a mass-spring-damper oscillator. You should be able to get the result for an LCR circuit just by replacing the terms used there with the specific coefficients of the damped harmonic oscillator differential equation that arise in LCR circuits (e.g. L corresponds to m, R to c, and C corresponds to 1/k).
 
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The first frequency is the frequency of the undamped oscillator. It is also the frequency of the resonance for a driven damped oscillator.

The second one is the frequency of a "free" (not driven) damped oscillator.
 

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