Decibel question, not sure where I went wrong.

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The problem involves calculating the number of rock bands required to reach or exceed the pain threshold of 120 dB, given that a single band produces 113 dB. The context is within the subject area of acoustics and sound intensity levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between decibel levels and intensity, questioning the necessity of converting to intensity in W/m². There is also exploration of whether the increase from 113 dB to 120 dB corresponds to an exact multiple of power.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested a more straightforward approach to the problem, indicating that the original poster's method may not be necessary. There is acknowledgment that the relationship between the decibel levels is not a simple factor of 5, leading to further exploration of the correct calculation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the answer must be an integer, which adds a constraint to the problem. There is also a mention of being marked wrong for their initial calculation, prompting further inquiry into the reasoning behind the decibel scale.

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Homework Statement



At a rock concert the fans in the front row are bombarded with 113 dB of sound. How many rock bands playing simultaneously at this level would be required to reach or exceed the pain threshold (120 dB)?
The answer has to be an integer. (Fractional rock bands don't exist ...)

Homework Equations



Db = 10log(I/I_ref)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I started by finding the intensity (in W/m^2) of the band using I_ref of 1E-12 W/m^2. That number was 0.1995 Then I found the intensity that would be needed to produce 120 decibels, which was 5 times greater, but that answer was marked wrong. It makes sense to me though, and when I check how many decibels 5x.01995 W/m^2 would produce, I get 120. Where did I go wrong on this one?

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First, there is no need to convert to W/m2 and then back to decibels. There is an easier way.

Second, the question hints that the answer will need to be converted to an integer. Does 120 decibels involve exactly 5 times the power of 113 decibels?
 
jbriggs444 said:
First, there is no need to convert to W/m2 and then back to decibels. There is an easier way.

Second, the question hints that the answer will need to be converted to an integer. Does 120 decibels involve exactly 5 times the power of 113 decibels?

It doesn't involve exactly 5, no, it's actually 5.01 and when I put in 6 as the answer I was told it's correct. You say there's a better way, I guess you mean by taking the 113 decibels as the reference and just having 10^(7/10)? I don't really know the ins and outs of the equation, would you be able to explain it?
 
Yes, that is exactly what I had in mind. 120 decibels is ##10^\frac{7}{10}## times the power of 113 decibels.
 

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