Decrease in amplitude with distance from source

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of wave amplitude in relation to distance from a source, specifically in the context of waves generated by a stone thrown into water. Participants explore how amplitude decreases with distance and relate this to concepts of intensity and energy distribution in waves.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between amplitude and intensity, questioning the correct mathematical representation of how amplitude decreases with distance. There are references to the inverse square law for sound waves and its implications for wave behavior in two dimensions.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants suggesting different relationships between amplitude and distance. Guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between amplitude and energy, prompting further inquiry into the mathematical relationships involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference quiz results and prior knowledge, indicating some uncertainty about the correct answer and the underlying principles. There is mention of a specific equation relating energy and amplitude, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A stone is thrown into a quiet pool of water. With no fluid friction, the amplitude of the waves falls off with distance r from the impact point as:

A. 1/r3
B. 1/r
C. 1/r1/2
D. 1/r3/2
E. 1/r2

Homework Equations


I can't think of any wave function accounting for decreasing amplitude with an increasing x.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I remembered from high school science classes that the intensity (or something similar) of a sound wave decreases inversely with the square of the distance from the source, so I chose choice E but got it wrong. I do not know what the correct answer is. Any help would be great :wink:
 
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Do you remember why a sound wave decreases inversely with the square of the distance? Imagine a sound source emitting a very short pulse of sound. One second later, the sound energy will be spread across the surface of a sphere. The sphere's surface area is 4pi*r^2, so the intensity (energy per square meter) is P/(4pi*r^2).

Now, for a wave on a pond, all of the energy moves in two dimensions. So intensity is...
 
ideasrule said:
Do you remember why a sound wave decreases inversely with the square of the distance? Imagine a sound source emitting a very short pulse of sound. One second later, the sound energy will be spread across the surface of a sphere. The sphere's surface area is 4pi*r^2, so the intensity (energy per square meter) is P/(4pi*r^2).

Now, for a wave on a pond, all of the energy moves in two dimensions. So intensity is...

Oh, so that's why :smile:

I guess the answer is B then, since intensity would be P/(2pi*r). Thank you!
 
I believe that the answer is not 1/r...
 
JPizz said:
I believe that the answer is not 1/r...

Why not? Since the circumferenc of a circle is 2pi*r, and the energy of the wave would be spread out as the circle gets larger, wouldn't the intensity be Power/circumference, or P/(2pi*r)? Please enlighten me a bit.
 
I took a quiz online for school and I had put that in as an answer and it said it was wrong. Maybe the quiz I took was incorrect...
 
What you are looking for is the amplitude, not the energy. What you have said about energy is right, now you have to use the relation between energy and amplitude, do you remember it?
 
JPizz said:
I took a quiz online for school and I had put that in as an answer and it said it was wrong. Maybe the quiz I took was incorrect...

The quiz probably was correct... funny thing, I found this question on my online quizzes for school too. Coincedence? :-p Do you get a second try at the quiz too?

UgOOgU said:
What you are looking for is the amplitude, not the energy. What you have said about energy is right, now you have to use the relation between energy and amplitude, do you remember it?

A search through my book gives me
E=\frac{1}{2}\mu\omega^{2}A^{2}\lambda

I guess then, A\propto\sqrt{E}
Which leads me to answer choice C. Should that be the correct answer then?
 
Okay, I've verified that the correct answer is indeed \frac{1}{\sqrt{r}}. I had a second try on the quiz and got choice C right.

Big thanks to everyone who helped me! :smile:
 

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