Derivation of Newton Gravitation problem application

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The discussion revolves around the application of the binomial theorem to derive a relationship in Newton's law of gravitation, specifically transitioning from an initial equation to a final form by substituting vector quantities and expanding terms. The problem involves understanding the behavior of denominators that include magnitudes raised to powers, particularly in the context of small perturbations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting vectors into an equation and expanding using the binomial theorem, questioning how to handle the magnitude cubed in the denominator. There are attempts to clarify the implications of small perturbations and how to ignore higher-order terms. Some participants also explore the mathematical manipulation of vector expressions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and clarifications about the mathematical steps involved. There is a recognition of the need for further practice with vector operations, and some participants have expressed understanding of the concepts being discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the perturbation \(d\) is much smaller than the magnitudes of the vectors involved, which influences the approach to the problem. Participants are navigating through the complexities of vector operations and the implications of their assumptions.

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Homework Statement


I need to show that the first equation becomes the last. First sub in for r1 and r2 and then use the binomial theorem to expand to first order in d. Then use the assumption that d<<r1 and r2. To show it reduces to the last eqn

**In the first eqn it is NOT r3 is should be r2 sorry**
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Homework Equations



Binomial theorem

I forgot to say d is the abs value of r2 -r1

The Attempt at a Solution



I know how to apply the binomial theorem. My first instinct was to plug the vectors r1 and r2 into the first equation. Then expand the denominators using the binomial theorem. But the denominators are the magnitude cubed so I am not sure that makes sense. I don't want anyone to just give me the answer because I want to figure it out. But I need a hint on how get this into a form where i can apply the binomial theorem and the ignore the higher order terms of d because it is very small.
 
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2slowtogofast said:
I know how to apply the binomial theorem. My first instinct was to plug the vectors r1 and r2 into the first equation. Then expand the denominators using the binomial theorem. But the denominators are the magnitude cubed so I am not sure that makes sense.
Sounds like a good plan. What about having the magnitude cubed in the denominator is confusing you?
 
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Use the fact that ##\| \vec{r} \|^2 = \vec{r}\cdot\vec{r}##.
 
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You have to multiply it out:
$$(\vec{x}+\vec{y})\cdot(\vec{x}+\vec{y}) = \vec{x}\cdot\vec{x} + 2\vec{x}\cdot\vec{y}+\vec{y}\cdot\vec{y}$$
 
Also in the denomiantor there was 3 terms when I did the multipliction but the 3rd term was somthing d^2 so since we are using the assumtion d is small I ignored that term



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The denominator should be
$$(r_c^2 \pm 2\frac{m_i}{M}(\vec{r}_c\cdot \vec{d}))^{3/2} = (r_c^2 \pm 2\frac{m_i}{M}r_c d \cos\theta))^{3/2}$$ where ##\theta## is the angle between ##\vec{r}_c## and ##\vec{d}##. You can't just have two vectors in the expression like you did.

Pull ##r_c^2## out to get a factor of the form (1+x)3/2. Then apply the binomial expansion to $$\frac{1}{(1+x)^{3/2}} = (1+x)^{-3/2}.$$
 
Thanks I finally got it. This make me realize I need some more practice with vectors. But thanks for all the help!
 

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