Derivative graph and the graph of the original function

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The discussion revolves around analyzing the graphs of the derivatives f'(x) and g'(x) to determine the number of solutions for the equations f(x) = 0 and g(x) = 0. Participants are exploring the implications of the behavior of these derivative graphs on the original functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning how the characteristics of the derivative graphs relate to the number of solutions for the original functions. There is discussion about the implications of f'(x) being always positive and how that affects f(x). Others are considering the behavior of g'(x) and its implications for g(x).

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the positivity of f'(x) and the number of solutions for f(x) = 0. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which g(x) may have two solutions, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants are working with limited information about the functional forms of f'(x) and g'(x). There is an emphasis on visualizing the graphs and understanding their implications without specific equations provided.

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When given the graph of f '(x) the graph sort of oscillates above the x-axis and the graph of
g '(x) which starts in Quadrant III sort of curves up, goes through point (0,0) keeps going up then begins to even out.

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How can you tell how many solutions there can be when f(x) = 0? How can you tell how many solutions there can be when g(x) = 0? and If g(x) has 2 solutions where would they be?

I don't seem to understand this.

Any help would be appreciated
 
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You need to have some knowledge of the form of the equations you're dealing with. Do you have a functional form for the derivatives of f'(x) and g'(x)?

If you don't know the forms of these equations, then I'm not sure if what you're asking is possible.
 
well if f'(x) is never above the x-axis then the slope is never negative, so there could only be one solution for f(x)=0 right? For g(x)=0 if there are two solutions then one solution would have to be for when x<0 and x>0 since the slope only changes it's sign after the graph crosses the origin. but that's only if g(x) crosses the x-axis before x becomes > 0, or else it can't go back across the x-axis once the slope changes. That's just how I visualized it, hope that helps a little.
 
There are only 2 graphs: f'(x) and g'(x).

I understand the one for g(x) now however...

For the f'(x) graph, f'(x) is always above the x-axis. That means the slope is always positive?
 
If the functioon f ' (x) is strictly positive (above the x-axis) then this means that the slope of f (x) is always positive. So the function f (x) can have at most one (real) root, or none as is the case with f (x) = e^x.

kLPantera said:
There are only 2 graphs: f'(x) and g'(x).

I understand the one for g(x) now however...

For the f'(x) graph, f'(x) is always above the x-axis. That means the slope is always positive?
 

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