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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of an integral with variable limits, specifically from \( e^t \) to \( t^5 \) of the function \( \sqrt{8+x^4} \). This falls under the subject area of calculus, focusing on the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus and the chain rule.

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  • Participants explore the use of the chain rule and the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to differentiate the integral. Questions arise regarding the application of a specific formula for differentiation of integrals with variable limits. There is also inquiry about how to apply the derivative of the anti-derivative function within the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided insights into the differentiation process, referencing the necessary formulas and the relationship between the integral and its limits. However, there remains a lack of consensus on the specific steps to take, with participants seeking clarification on how to apply the discussed concepts.

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Participants express urgency due to an upcoming calculus final, which may influence the depth of their inquiries and the clarity of their understanding. There is also a mention of a specific formula for differentiation that some participants are unfamiliar with, indicating a potential gap in knowledge that is being addressed through discussion.

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derivative of integral over e^t to t^5 (sqrt(8+x^4)) dx

I know I need to use the chain rule and I can take the derivative of the integral without respect to e^t and t^5. If you know the answer, can you answer and tell me how to do it?! Calculus final on Monday...
 
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polulech said:
derivative of integral over e^t to t^5 (sqrt(8+x^4)) dx

I know I need to use the chain rule and I can take the derivative of the integral without respect to e^t and t^5. If you know the answer, can you answer and tell me how to do it?! Calculus final on Monday...

Have you never seen the formula [tex]\frac{d}{dt}\int_{A(t)}^{B(t)} f(x,t) dx =<br /> \frac{dB(t)}{dt} \left. f(x,t)\right|_{x=B(t)} <br /> - \frac{dA(t)}{dt} \left. f(x,t)\right|_{x=A(t)} <br /> + \int_{A(t)}^{B(t)} \frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial t} \, dx ?[/tex]

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Umm no I have not :(
How do I put the pieces from my integral into that?
 
polulech said:
derivative of integral over e^t to t^5 (sqrt(8+x^4)) dx

I know I need to use the chain rule and I can take the derivative of the integral without respect to e^t and t^5. If you know the answer, can you answer and tell me how to do it?! Calculus final on Monday...

Hi polulech. Welcome to PF.

Suppose F(x) is the anti-derivative of [itex]\displaystyle \sqrt{8+x^4\,}\,.[/itex]

Then by the fundamental theorem of calculus, [itex]\displaystyle \int_a^b\sqrt{8+x^4\,}\,dx=F(b)-F(a)\,.[/itex]

In the case of your integral you have: [itex]\displaystyle \int_{e^t}^{\,t^5}\sqrt{8+x^4\,} \,dx=F(t^5)-F(e^t)\,.[/itex]

You know that [itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}F(x)=\sqrt{8+x^4\,}\,.[/itex] Combine this result with the chain rule to find the derivative of your integral.
 
how would I do that
 
polulech said:
how would I do that

Can you find [itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dt}F(t^5)\,,[/itex] if you know that F'(x)=√(8 + x4) ?
 
would i plug t^5 into the √8+x^4 and then calculate the derivative?
 
polulech said:
would i plug t^5 into the √8+x^4 and then calculate the derivative?
No.

F(x) is a function whose derivative is √(8+x4).

The chain rule says that [itex]\displaystyle\frac{d}{dt}F(t^5)=F\,'(t^5)\cdot \frac{d}{dt}(t^5)\,.[/itex]

Furthermore, [itex]\displaystyle F\,'(t^5)=\sqrt{8+t^{20}}[/itex]
 

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