Derivatives of Trigonometric Function

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y=(sin 2x)(cos 2x), with participants exploring the application of the product rule and trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of the product rule and chain rule for derivatives, with some expressing confusion about the multiplication of trigonometric functions. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of trigonometric identities and derivatives.

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Several participants have provided guidance on the derivative calculation, with some noting discrepancies between the original poster's attempts and the expected answer. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, including the use of trigonometric identities to simplify the expression.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is also mention of an answer key that does not align with some participants' calculations, prompting further discussion.

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Homework Statement



y=(sin2x)(cos2)


Homework Equations



Product Rule for Derivatives
identities:
derivatives of
Sinx = Cosx
Cox = -Sinx

The Attempt at a Solution



i used the product and chain rule for derivatives then do the identities

y = sin2x*cos2x
dy/dx = (Cos2x)(2) (Cosx) + (-Sin2x)(2)(Sin2x)
dy/dx = 2(Cos2x^2) - 2(Sin4x^2)

i know that my answer is wrong... I am kinda confuse about multiplying them
can please anyone help me
 
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I assume that your problem is y=(sin 2x)(cos 2x), you made a little type.

Then the derivative is 2(cos2x)(cos2x)+2(-sin 2x)(sin 2x)=2cos²2x-2sin²2x
 
micromass said:
I assume that your problem is y=(sin 2x)(cos 2x), you made a little type.

Then the derivative is 2(cos2x)(cos2x)+2(-sin 2x)(sin 2x)=2cos²2x-2sin²2x


yes its y= (sin 2x) (cos 2x)
however
ur answer does nnot match to the answer key
and also this part u did " 2(-sin 2x)(sin 2x) " isn't suppose to be -2(Sin24x)

btw the answer base on the book is

2cos4x and I am trying to figure out how to do it properly
btw thanks for trying my problem i appreciate it!
 
Ah yes. You have the formula

\cos(2x)=\cos^2(x)-\sin^2(x)

So my formula

2\cos^22x-2\sin^22x = 2\cos (2(2x))=2\cos(4x)

Note that it isn't true that 2cos(2x)=cos(4x). I say this, because it seems that you did that...
 
can you please explain it steps by steps
im sorry because I am still new at this lesson and i can't do it in my head yet
thank you!
the part that i get confuse would probably be multiplying trigo
 
So

[\cos(2x)\sin(2x)]^\prime=2(\cos 2x)(\cos 2x)+2(-\sin 2x)(\sin 2x)=2\cos^22x-2\sin^22x

Using the trigoniometric formula \cos(2\alpha)=\cos^2\alpha-\sin^2\alpha with \alpha=2x, we get

2\cos^22x-2\sin^22x=2(\cos^22x-\sin^22x)=2\cos(2(2x))=2\cos(4x)

Also note that it is NOT true that sin(x)sin(y)=sin(xy). I read this in your first post. It is NOT TRUE, it is EVIL!
 
because the answer says

Since y=1/2 sin (4x), it follows that dy/dx = 1/2 cos 4x (4) = 2cos4x

i need to know how to get in this part
your calculation looks good but I am not sure where it came from
 
The answer uses the formule \sin(2\alpha)=2\sin(\alpha)\cos(\alpha).

So instead of deriving cos(2x)sin(2x), they derived (1/2)sin(4x).
 
ohhh ok i see thank you!
i totally forgot about this trigonometric formula
thank you so much! it refreshed everything!
 

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