Deriving Lorentz transformation

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lorentz transformation (LT) using two frames of reference, S and S'. The key equation discussed is x² + y² + z² = c²t², where ct represents the product of the speed of light and time. The participants emphasize the necessity of drawing two diagrams to illustrate the trajectory of light in both frames, applying Pythagorean theorem principles to calculate distances. The consensus is that while observers agree on the speed of light, they must disagree on the time period due to their relative motion.

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Hello,

I have few question for deriving the Lorentz transformation (LT):

While deriving the LT, we draw a graph as x,y,z in one frame of reference and x',y',z' in the other frame of reference as S and S' as two frames of reference.

Now the factor ct comes in, which is the flash of light. Now we do:

x^2+y^2+z^2=c^2t^2.

(1) The ct factor is speed of light multiplied by time as ct, right?
(2) the square factor of x^2+y^2...How do we calculate? Are we using Pythagoras' theorem in this case?
 
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You have to draw the trajectory of the light-ray in the primed and unprimed frames. i.e. you need two diagrams. One for the unprimed observer and one for the primed observer.

Usually the frames are set up so the trajectory is just a line in the unprimed frame and triangular in the primed frame. Which is how Pythagoras comes in.

Work out the equation for the time period between emmission and reception of the light pulse in each frame.
Classically you would assume the two observers agree about the time period but disagree about the speed of light (one of them would say, "yeah, but you're the one moving.") In relativity, the observers agree about the speed of light which means they must disagree about the time period. So put the speed of light the same in both cases and compare the lightspeeds.
 
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