Deriving Lorentz Transformations for Moving Reference Frames

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lorentz transformations for three reference frames: Σ, Σ', and Σ''. Frame Σ' moves with velocity v1 relative to Σ, while Σ'' moves with velocity v2 relative to Σ'. Participants suggest starting with the transformations between Σ and Σ' and between Σ' and Σ'' to find the relationship between Σ and Σ''. The algebra involved is similar to previous calculations, and the final goal is to express the relative velocity of Σ'' with respect to Σ. The importance of comparing this result to non-relativistic calculations is also highlighted.
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Consider three frames Σ (x, y, z, t), Σ' (x', y', z', t'), and Σ'' (x'', y'', z'', t'') whose x, y, and z axes are parallel at each point in time stay. Σ' moves relative to Σ with velocity v1 along the x-axis. The system Σ'' moves relative to Σ' with the velocity v2 along the x'-axis. Determine the Lorentz transformation and the relative velocity between the reference systems Σ and Σ''. Compare this speed with the value that would follow from the non-relativistic calculation.
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Problem Statement: Consider three frames Σ (x, y, z, t), Σ' (x', y', z', t'), and Σ'' (x'', y'', z'', t'') whose x, y, and z axes are parallel at each point in time stay. Σ' moves relative to Σ with velocity v1 along the x-axis. The system Σ'' moves relative to Σ' with the velocity v2 along the x'-axis. Determine the Lorentz transformation and the relative velocity between the reference systems Σ and Σ''. Compare this speed with the value that would follow from the non-relativistic calculation.
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Hello PhysicsForum,

until now i had not had any idea how to solve this problem.
Maybe someone can give me a hint or an approach how to get a solution. :)
 
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If you write out the transformation between the primed and double-primed systems, you will have a relation between the primed and double-primed coordinates. Similarly, for the transformation between the unprimed and primed systems. The rest should just be algebra.
 
I have tried to calculate it now...
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This is my result. Could someone take a look and tell me if it is right please? :smile:
 
I think your calculation is OK. But, from the way that I interpret the problem statement, I think that they want you to derive the transformation between Σ and Σ'' starting with the transformation between Σ and Σ' and the transformation between Σ' and Σ''. This will lead to an expression for the velocity of Σ'' relative to Σ in terms of v1 and v2 given in the problem. The algebraic manipulations will be very similar to what you have done.
 
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