Deriving the displacement equation for a sinusoidal wave

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the displacement equation for a sinusoidal wave, specifically the equation D(x,t) = A sin(kx - ωt + φ₀). Participants are exploring the transition from a time t = 0 scenario to a general time t, questioning the implications of introducing the term (x - vt) in the equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the reasoning behind substituting x with (x - vt) and how this relates to the wave's movement over time. Questions are raised about the meaning of the minus sign in the context of wave propagation and the implications of introducing a time variable into an equation initially set for t = 0.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about the conceptual underpinnings of the derivation. Some have provided insights regarding the movement of the wave and the nature of the sinusoidal function, but a clear consensus or resolution has not yet been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the assumptions made in the derivation process and the implications of shifting the graph of the wave function. There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the relationship between the wave's speed and the displacement equation.

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Hi everyone,

I'm trying to understand the derivation of

D(x,t) = A \sin{(kx - \omega t + \phi_o)}

which is the displacement equation for a sinusoidal wave.

The way my textbook (Physics for scientists and engineers by Knight) does it:

Look at the graph of displacement versus position at time t = 0. The function that describes this graph is

D(x,t=0) = A \sin{(2 \pi (\frac{x}{\lambda}) + \phi_o)}

Now what I don't get is the next step. We replace x with the quantity (x-vt), where v is the speed of the wave. The resulting equation is

D(x,t) = A \sin{(2 \pi (\frac{x-vt}{\lambda}) + \phi_o)}

Where does this (x-vt) term come from? I don't understand what this equation means, because I thought we were considering t = 0, and now we are throwing in a t variable.

Please help me understand! Thanks in advance.edit: I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Alembert's_formula

I think it is related, but I don't understand the article at all...
 
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After a time t, the wave will have moved a distance vt in the positive x direction.
 
willem2 said:
After a time t, the wave will have moved a distance vt in the positive x direction.

Thank you, but I still don't understand.

I'm really trying to get some intuition behind why we are able to do this. I can see that vt is equal to the distance that one crest will move in time t if it is moving at wave speed v.

I can also see that if we put t = 0 in the new equation, we get the original equation.

But,

1) Why do we put a minus sign for positive x direction and a plus sign for negative x direction? I remember from math that, for example, sin(2pi - 1) is the graph of sin(2pi) shifted to the right by 1 unit, but I still don't understand what this means for the graphs and the actual waves. But this leads me to my next question...

2) What does this even mean? How can we just put a time variable into a equation that assumed from the beginning that t = 0?

Thanks.
 
1) The graph of f(x-a) is the graph of f(x) shifted a to the right (positive x direction)
if you have f(x) = C for x=D then you have f(x-a) = C for x = D+a

2) This isn't really a derivation. They just gave a function with the property that D(x,t) = D(x-vt, 0)
 

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