Deriving the mass conservation integral in GR

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The discussion revolves around deriving the mass conservation integral in the context of general relativity, specifically starting from a general axisymmetric metric. The original poster presents equations derived from the Euler-Lagrange equations and expresses difficulty in progressing towards the mass conservation integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the metric and derived equations to reach the desired integral. They consider substituting expressions for time and angular derivatives but encounter challenges. Other participants suggest that using LaTeX might improve clarity in presenting the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster seeking further assistance after attempting a few approaches. There is acknowledgment of the need for clearer communication through LaTeX, which may facilitate better responses from others.

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The original poster is working under the constraints of homework rules, which likely limit the extent of guidance they can receive. There is an implicit understanding that the problem requires careful consideration of the metric and its implications in general relativity.

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Homework Statement



Starting from a general axisymmetric metric
ds^2=g_tt dt^2 + 2g_tφ dtdφ +g_φφ dφ^2 + g_rr dr^2+g_θθ dθ^2 ...(0)
where the metric components are functions of the coordinates r and θ only.

I've managed to show (via Euler-Lagrange equations) that
g_tt dt/dτ + g_tφ dφ/dτ = E ...(1) and
g_tφ dt/dτ + g_φφ dφ/dτ = -L_z ...(2)
(where E and L_z are constants, and τ an affine parameter)

I am required to derive the mass conservation integral:
g_rr (dr/dτ)^2 + g_θθ (dθ/dτ)^2 = -V_eff (r,θ,E,L_z)
which I'm having trouble doing.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Dividing (0) by dτ^2 and substituting (1) and (2), and re-arranging gives:
g_rr (dr/dτ)^2 + g_θθ (dθ/dτ)^2 = (ds/dτ)^2 - E dt/dτ + L_z dφ/dτ ...(3)
but I'm not sure where to go from here.

I thought about trying to solve (1) and (2) simultaneously for dt/dτ and dφ/dτ to substitute into (3) but that doesn't seem to work.

I'd appreciate any help, thanks.
 
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I've spent a bit more time and still no luck. Any pointers?
 
Should I latex it up to get responses?
 
tcw said:
Should I latex it up to get responses?
Just the fact that you didn't use LaTeX isn't itself a reason for people not to answer your question, but it would definitely help if you can put those formulas in LaTeX. I just tried reading through your question and it's kind of hard to parse with the formulas written out in text.
 
diazona said:
Just the fact that you didn't use LaTeX isn't itself a reason for people not to answer your question, but it would definitely help if you can put those formulas in LaTeX. I just tried reading through your question and it's kind of hard to parse with the formulas written out in text.

Thanks for your help, I'll do that then.
 

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