Deriving the Stefan-Boltzman law and integration tricks

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Stefan-Boltzmann law from Planck's formula, specifically focusing on an integral that is central to the derivation process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the simplification of an integral involving a series and question the validity of swapping the summation and integration. There is also discussion about evaluating a specific summation related to the Riemann zeta function.

Discussion Status

Participants have made progress in understanding the integral and its evaluation. Some have provided guidance on the convergence of the series and the evaluation of the integral through integration by parts. However, there remains a question regarding the evaluation of the summation related to the Riemann zeta function.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of convergence conditions for the series and integral, as well as references to external resources for evaluating the Riemann zeta function.

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Homework Statement


HI people,

I was trying to derive the stefan-Boltzmann law from the planc's formula, I kind of got stuck with an integral

Homework Equations



$$ \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{x^3}{e^x -1} dx $$

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried simplifying it with

$$ \int_{0}^{\infty} x^3 e^{-x} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} e^{-nx} dx $$

Now I don't know what to do with the summation. I could evaluate

$$ \int_{0}^{\infty} x^3 e^{-x} dx = 6$$

pleas help me to get the rest of it, I see the answer comes with $\pi$, how do I get it in this kind of equation? Is there any special trick to solve these type of integrals?
thanks in advance.
 
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Under the condition that both the series and the integral converge, you can swap them. Here we're sure that the series converges because we got it by taylor-expanding a function. About the integral, we have a polynomial against an exponential with negative exponent which means converges too. So we have ##\displaystyle \sum_{n=0}^\infty \int_0^\infty x^3 e^{-x}e^{-nx} dx=\sum_{n=0}^\infty \int_0^\infty x^3 e^{-(n+1)x}##. Now you if you integrate by parts three times(each time considering u to be the algebraic factor and dv to be the exponential one), you can obtain the solution to the integral.
 
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Ah great, thank you very much, I almost got it on the track now, this is

$$ \int_{0}^{\infty} x^3 e^{-(n+1)x} dx = 6 (n+1)^{-4}$$

can you just tell me a little about how to evaluate the summation of $$\sum \frac{1}{(n+1)^4}$$ though, I think I forgot this evaluation.

thanks in advance
 
The series ## \displaystyle \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{1}{(n+1)^4}## can be written as ## \displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{n^4}## which is equal to ## \zeta(4) ##, where ## \zeta(s) ## is the Riemann zeta function. So you don't need to evaluate the series, just look for tables of the values for this function or compute it using math softwares.
 
problem solved, thanks a lot
 

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