Net Torque: Determine Magnitude from Ladder Base

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To determine the net torque about the ladder's base, the discussion focuses on calculating the torques from both the ladder and the basket with the firefighter. The center of mass for the ladder is located 8.5m from the pivot, while the basket with the firefighter is at the ladder's end, 17m from the pivot. The angle of 60 degrees with the horizontal is significant for the torque calculations, requiring the use of sine for the angle in the torque formula. The participants clarify that the sine function is appropriate because it relates to the angle of force application, despite initial confusion about whether to use cosine. Ultimately, the net torque is calculated by summing the torques from both components.
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Homework Statement



A 17m long ladder is mounted on a fire truck. The ladder itself has mass 130kg , and at the top is a 37kg basket holding a 83kg firefighter.

If the ladder makes a 60∘ angle with the horizontal, what's the magnitude of the net torque about the ladder's base?

Homework Equations



I think center of mass (X1M1+X2M2+X3M3)/(m1+m2+m3)
Torue=rFsinθ

The Attempt at a Solution



I get a huge number when i try it out. But since is is asking about the ladders base, would it the sine change to cosine?

I take the torque from the mass at the end and the torque of the ladder to get the net torque. Kind of stuck.
 
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Never mind "center of mass of all the forces."

You have the center of mass of 130 kg of the ladder at 8.5m from the pivot axis. You have 120 kg of mass at 17m from the pivot point. You have a 60 deg. angle with the horizontal.

Compute the torques due to the ladder mass and the basket cum firefighter.
 
Ok then so it is just

Tnet=(8.5)(9.8)(130)Sin(60)+(17)(9.8)(120)Sin(60)
 
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