Determine the Acceleration of the of the Initally Stationary Block

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The discussion revolves around determining the acceleration of a 15-kg block subjected to a 33-N force, considering ideal wheels and various forces acting on the block. Participants are analyzing the forces and moments involved in the problem setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss summing forces in both x and y directions and taking moments about different points to find unknown forces. There is an exploration of the relationship between the applied force, friction, and the resulting acceleration.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the notation used in equations and the nature of forces acting on the block. There is ongoing exploration of the calculations and assumptions made, particularly concerning the role of the ideal wheel and the implications for the forces involved.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the forces acting on the block, particularly regarding the frictional force and how it relates to the motion of the block. There is also a mention of discrepancies in calculated values when using different points for moment calculations.

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Homework Statement



Determine the acceleration a of the initially stationary 15-kg body when the 33-N force P is applied as shown. The small wheels at B are ideal, and the feet at A are small.

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I started with summing the forces in the x and y direction:

ƩFx: max = P - Bx - F

ƩFy: may = By -mg + A

Then I took the moment about B to get:

ƩMB =0 = -hP +.5lmg - lA

A = [0.5mg - hP]/l

A = 52.895 N

From here I am then able to determine the value of By by using my equation for the sum of the forces in the y-direction

By = 94.255 N

I know that Fmax = usA

Hence Fmax = 23.2738 N

But how do I then determine Bx and F? I believe that I need to ensure the block is actually moving, but Bx remains unknown so I cannot determine whether F is greater than its maximum value.

I had tried taking the moment about another point, the top right corner of the box, which gave me an equation containing Bx and F, which I had then solved for F so I could plug it into my ƩFx equation, but I feel as though Bx would vary depending on whether the block was in motion or not, because the value of F would change.

Can someone clarify this for me?

Thank you
 

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Just checking to start with:

Then I took the moment about B to get:
ƩMB =0 = -hP +.5lmg - lA
By "l" you mean "L" in your diagram?

A = [0.5mg - hP]/l
A = 52.895 N
... it is usually better practice to leave the number crunching to the end.
Leave ##AL=\frac{1}{2}mg - hP##.

For #B_x## ... you know that point B is an ideal wheel. What is the horizontal resistance of an ideal wheel?
F is friction - in order to just get the contraption moving you must have just overcome which kind of friction?
 
You are correct in the assumption that "l" is equal to "L" in the diagram.

I recognize that there is no Bx force, somehow I confused the wheel with a pin, not quite sure how I managed to do that...

Also, I recognize that F = ukA

Hence, shouldn't I get:

ax = [P-ukA]/L

which gives me 20.73 m/s2

but it says its wrong and I don't understand where my mistake is. Is there something wrong with how I calculated A by summing the moments about B?
 
You can check by treating as a free-body and finding out the sum of forces through the center of mass.
 
So, I looked at my calculations again; this time I took the moment about the center of the block. In doing this I was able to find the value of A and hence I correctly calculated the acceleration to be a = 0.9392 m/s^2.

Why did I get an incorrect value for A when I took the moment about B? What makes this scenario different to any earlier material I've studied?

Also, could you expand on what you mean by finding the sum of the forces through the center mass, please?
 
In a free body, any force acting on the body can be split into components through the center of mass and perpendicular to it. The perpendicular component rotates the body. The other one translates it. You were interested in the translational acceleration.

You should be able to figure out which effect you missed out by comparing the free-body equations with the previous ones. See how many of your original terms can be extracted. What's left will tell you what happened.
 

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