Determine the Angluar Velocity of the Slender Rod.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular velocity of a slender rod connected to a drum, emphasizing the relationship between the variables involved. Participants suggest using trigonometric identities to express the distance x and its derivatives more effectively. There is confusion regarding the correct substitution for x' and the use of trigonometric functions, particularly in simplifying the equations. Clarifications are provided on the relationship between tangential speed and angular velocity, highlighting the importance of proper substitutions in the equations. The conversation aims to resolve the uncertainties in deriving the angular velocity as a function of distance and the drum's angular velocity.
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Homework Statement


Calculate the angular velocity w of the slender bar Ab as a function of the distance x and the constant angular velocity w0 of the drum.

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x = √(x2+h2)cos(θ)

x' = -√(x2+h2)sin(θ)θ'

θ' = -x'/√(x2+h2)sin(θ)

θ' = -x'/h

But I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm having trouble dealing with x'.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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When taking the time derivative, you neglected the time dependence of x on the right side of the equation. It will be easier if you start over and use a different trig function than cosine.
 
Do you mean something like:

x = h/tan(θ)
 
Yes. And 1/tanθ equals another trig function.
 
Do you mean 1/tan(θ) = cos(θ)/sin(θ) ?
 
No. cotθ
 
With this information I've managed to get:

x = h/tan(θ)

x = hcot(θ)

x' = -hcsc(θ)

θ' = -x'/hcsc(θ)

θ' = -x'sin2(θ)/h

And I know that h = √(x2+h2)sin(θ)

θ' = (-x'sin2(θ))/√(x2+h2)sin(θ)

Which simplifies to:

θ' = -x'sin(θ)/√x2+h2)

I also recognized that sin(θ) = h/√(x2+h2)

θ' = -x'h/(x2+h2)

At this point I'm a little unsure of the x' and what to substitute it with. I know that:

v = wXr = rwcos(θ)

I'm unsure if what I've written here for v is correct. Particularly, as the given answer does not have a cos(θ) in it.

Could someone clarify this for me?
 
x'= v = tangential speed of rim of drum = rω

Note: from the equation θ' = -x'sin2(θ)/h it would be easier to substitute for sinθ rather than substitute for h.
 

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