Determine the Angluar Velocity of the Slender Rod.

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The problem involves calculating the angular velocity of a slender rod as a function of a distance and a constant angular velocity of a drum. The context includes trigonometric relationships and derivatives related to angular motion.

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  • Participants discuss various trigonometric identities and their implications for the relationship between angular velocity and the distance variable. There are attempts to derive expressions for angular velocity using derivatives and trigonometric functions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's attempts and suggesting alternative approaches. There is a recognition of the need to clarify certain substitutions and relationships, particularly regarding trigonometric functions and their derivatives.

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Some participants note potential oversights in the time dependence of variables and the choice of trigonometric functions, indicating that assumptions about the relationships may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the angular velocity w of the slender bar Ab as a function of the distance x and the constant angular velocity w0 of the drum.

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x = √(x2+h2)cos(θ)

x' = -√(x2+h2)sin(θ)θ'

θ' = -x'/√(x2+h2)sin(θ)

θ' = -x'/h

But I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm having trouble dealing with x'.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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When taking the time derivative, you neglected the time dependence of x on the right side of the equation. It will be easier if you start over and use a different trig function than cosine.
 
Do you mean something like:

x = h/tan(θ)
 
Yes. And 1/tanθ equals another trig function.
 
Do you mean 1/tan(θ) = cos(θ)/sin(θ) ?
 
No. cotθ
 
With this information I've managed to get:

x = h/tan(θ)

x = hcot(θ)

x' = -hcsc(θ)

θ' = -x'/hcsc(θ)

θ' = -x'sin2(θ)/h

And I know that h = √(x2+h2)sin(θ)

θ' = (-x'sin2(θ))/√(x2+h2)sin(θ)

Which simplifies to:

θ' = -x'sin(θ)/√x2+h2)

I also recognized that sin(θ) = h/√(x2+h2)

θ' = -x'h/(x2+h2)

At this point I'm a little unsure of the x' and what to substitute it with. I know that:

v = wXr = rwcos(θ)

I'm unsure if what I've written here for v is correct. Particularly, as the given answer does not have a cos(θ) in it.

Could someone clarify this for me?
 
x'= v = tangential speed of rim of drum = rω

Note: from the equation θ' = -x'sin2(θ)/h it would be easier to substitute for sinθ rather than substitute for h.
 

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