Determine the charge now on each capacitor

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The problem involves two identical capacitors connected in parallel, each acquiring a charge Q0 when connected to a voltage source V0. After disconnecting the voltage source, a dielectric with a dielectric constant K=3.1 is inserted into one of the capacitors. The task is to determine the new charge and voltage across each capacitor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of disconnecting the voltage source on the charge of the capacitors. Questions arise about the role of the dielectric and the correct application of formulas related to capacitance and charge. Some participants question how the charge redistributes between the capacitors after the dielectric is inserted.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the behavior of the capacitors after the voltage source is disconnected, suggesting that the charge remains constant initially. Others have attempted calculations for the new charge values and voltage, indicating a progression in understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the capacitors are initially charged to Q0 and are questioning the effects of the dielectric on the system. There is a lack of consensus on the correct approach to determine the new charge and voltage across each capacitor.

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Homework Statement


Two identical capacitors are connected in parallel and each acquires a charge Q0 when connected to a source of voltage V0. The voltage source is disconnected and then a dielectric (K=3.1) is inserted to fill the space between the plates of one of the capacitors. Assume that the capacitor without the dielectric is the first and the capacitor with the dielectric is second. Determine the charge now on each capacitor and the voltage now across each capacitor.

Homework Equations


Q = KQ0
V = V0/K

The Attempt at a Solution


The answers are wanted in terms of Q0 and V0, but I can't figure out what to do. The only solution I could come up with is Q = 3.1Q0 and V=(1/3.1)V0, both of which are wrong. I am also not sure how to approach the capacitor without the dielectric.
 
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Just a quick question: Does your text use [tex]\epsilon = \kappa <br /> \epsilon_o[/tex] as the expression for the dielectric constant where [tex]\epsilon_o[/tex] is the permittivity of free space?
 


Yes it does. Do I need to use that?
 


How did the charge change if the voltage source was disconnected?
 


I considered that and tried to just put 1Q0 as the answer, but that was wrong.
 


tiggrulz13 said:
I considered that and tried to just put 1Q0 as the answer, but that was wrong.

The charge on both will still be whatever charge they acquired when the voltage was present. The charge didn't go anywhere. It couldn't because it was disconnected.

But the capacitors are still connected in ||
 


That means that the charge will redistribute itself over the two capacitors.

Figure the new equivalent capacitance and that total charge 2Qo is now distributed according to the values of the new capacitance.

The capacitor with a dielectric has an increased capacity of 3.1Co so total capacitance is 4.1Co ...
 


Ok, so I found the two values for Q1 and Q2 (.49 and 1.51, respectively) and used that to solve for voltage. Thanks!
 

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