Determining coefficient of kinetic friction help

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To determine the coefficient of kinetic friction for a 3.40 kg block pushed against the ceiling with an 85.0 N force at a 55.0° angle, the net force in the x-direction is not zero due to the block's acceleration of 6.00 m/s². The calculations involve balancing the forces acting on the block, including the applied force components and the frictional force. Various participants provided different values for the coefficient of kinetic friction, with some arriving at approximately 0.780 and others at 0.614 or 0.541, indicating confusion in the calculations. The key takeaway is that the net force must account for the acceleration, and the normal force must include both the vertical component of the applied force and the weight of the block. Correctly applying these principles will yield the accurate coefficient of kinetic friction.
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A 3.40 kg block is pushed along the ceiling with a constant applied force of 85.0 N that acts at an angle of 55.0° with the horizontal, as in the figure below. The block accelerates to the right at 6.00 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between block and ceiling.

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Ugghhh so... this is what I did...

F = 85.0 N
m = 3.40 kg
a = 6.00 m/s2
fk = μkn

1) Forces in the x-direction:
F cos θ
fk (kinetic friction)

Forces in the y-direction:
F sin θ
n (normal force)

2) Sum of forces

ƩFx = F cos θ + fk = 0
ƩFy = F sin θ + n = 0
ƩFy = F sin θ + n = 0
ƩFy = n = -F sin θ

3) ƩFx = F cos θ + μkn = 0
3) ƩFx = F cos θ + μk(-F sin θ) = 0
3) ƩFx = F cos θ + μk(-F sin θ) = 0
3) ƩFx = 85 cos 55 - μk(85 sin 55) = 0
3) ƩFx = 85 cos 55 = μk(85 sin 55)
3) ƩFx = (85 cos 55)/(85 sin 55) = μk
3) ƩFx = 0.700 = μk

So I got this wrong, the answer is actually 0.781 (?)

I don't know what to do!
 
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A 3.40 kg block is pushed along the ceiling with a constant applied force of 85.0 N that acts at an angle of 55.0° with the horizontal, as in the figure below. The block accelerates to the right at 6.00 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between block and ceiling
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It is accelerating, net Fx not zero.
The force applied is pressing the block to the ceiling. The weight is pulling it away.
I got this value - 0.78093138
 
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azizlwl said:
A 3.40 kg block is pushed along the ceiling with a constant applied force of 85.0 N that acts at an angle of 55.0° with the horizontal, as in the figure below. The block accelerates to the right at 6.00 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between block and ceiling
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It is accelerating, net Fx not zero.
The force applied is pressing the block to the ceiling. The weight is pulling it away.
I got this value - 0.78093138
So is it supposed to be this?

ƩFx = F cos θ + μkn = 6

85 cos 55 + μk(-85 sin 55) = 6
85 cos 55 - μk(85 sin 55) = 6
85 cos 55 = 6 + μk(85 sin 55)
48.75 - 6 = 69.62μk
42.75/69.62 = μk
0.614 = μk

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I didn't get that answer!
Can you please show me what you did?
 
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Force of kinetic friction:
fk = μkn

Horizontal force of acceleration in the x-direction/Value of the bottom leg of the triangle:
Facceleration-x = Fa(cos θ)
Facceleration-x = 85(cos 55)
Facceleration-x = 48.75 N

Normal force n (value of the upright, vertical leg of the triangle):
n = Facceleration-y(sin θ) + mg
n = 85(sin 55) + (3.40 kg)(6.00 m/s2)
n = 69.62 + 20.4
n = 90.02 N

fk = μkn
48.75 = μk(90.02)
48.75/90.02 = μk
0.541 = μk

aksjflkjadsfjds -____-
Help?
 
azizlwl said:
A 3.40 kg block is pushed along the ceiling with a constant applied force of 85.0 N that acts at an angle of 55.0° with the horizontal, as in the figure below. The block accelerates to the right at 6.00 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between block and ceiling
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It is accelerating, net Fx not zero.
The force applied is pressing the block to the ceiling. The weight is pulling it away.
I got this value - 0.78093138

You were completely wrong.
Net force doesn't equal 6.
Thanks for nothing.
 
riseofphoenix said:
You were completely wrong.
Net force doesn't equal 6.
Thanks for nothing.

I not sure whether you read the question.
I just copy and paste the original question you posted and just underlined it.
 
riseofphoenix said:
A 3.40 kg block is pushed along the ceiling with a constant applied force of 85.0 N that acts at an angle of 55.0° with the horizontal, as in the figure below. The block accelerates to the right at 6.00 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between block and ceiling.

Here your original question and i underlined it.
 
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