Determining final temperature, pressure and work done

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final temperature, pressure, and work done by an ideal gas during two types of expansion processes: isothermal and adiabatic. For the isothermal process, the final temperature remains at 600K, while the final pressure drops to 200 kPa after expanding to five times its initial volume. The work done by the gas during this process is calculated to be approximately -1609.438 kJ, emphasizing the need to correctly interpret the signs of work done by and on the system. Participants highlight the importance of distinguishing between work done on the system versus work done by the system in reversible expansions. Overall, the calculations and concepts presented are critical for understanding thermodynamic processes involving ideal gases.
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hi guys I am swamp with work and have not been able to go through my assignments proper

1. one cube meter of an ideal gas at 600K and 1000Kpa expands to 5 times its initial volume: by mechanically reversible, isothermal process and by a mechanically reversible, adiabatic process


2.for each case calculate the final temperature, pressure, and the work done by the gas. take Cp= 21 J/mol.K



3. For isothermal process:
T2= 600
P1V1=P2V2
thus P2= (1*1000)/5 =200Kpa
W= -P1V1 ln V2/V1
= -(1000000000*1) ln (5/1)
= -1609.438 KJ
 
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P2 is ok.

Check the value of P1V1 in the calculation for the work.
 


P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000000 pa
V1= 1m^3

thus W using pa is equal to -1609.438 KJ
 


nombusoz said:
P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000000 pa

P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000 pa
 
Your work looks good except that when a gas expands reversibly, the gas does a positive amount of work.

It's always important to distinguish between the work done on a system and the work done by the system.
 
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