Diabetes Can be Reversed, but Not Cured?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of reversing Type 2 diabetes versus curing it. Participants explore the implications of these terms, the underlying mechanisms of the disease, and personal experiences related to diabetes management.

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  • Some participants question the distinction between reversing diabetes and curing it, seeking clarification on how reversal differs from a permanent cure.
  • One participant provides links to articles discussing the lack of a cure for diabetes and the possibility of reversing it, suggesting that reversal may involve dietary changes and medication.
  • A participant shares personal experiences related to the consequences of poorly managed diabetes, emphasizing the seriousness of the condition and the importance of proper management.
  • There is mention of Type 2 diabetes being an inflammatory-mediated disease characterized by insulin resistance, with environmental and genetic factors contributing to its development.
  • Concerns are raised about the long-term complications associated with uncontrolled diabetes, including hypertension and other health issues.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of reversal and cure, and the discussion reflects multiple viewpoints on the management and implications of Type 2 diabetes.

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Some claims about the genetic factors and disease processes associated with Type 2 diabetes are presented without full exploration of their implications or the complexity of the disease.

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Individuals seeking to understand the differences between reversing and curing Type 2 diabetes, as well as those looking for personal accounts and insights into diabetes management.

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I've read that diabetes (Type 2) can be reversed, but not cured.

Can someone explain the difference? If something is reversed and never comes back, then how is that different from being cured? TY
 
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I was just diagnosed, by the way. :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
[oversimplified since the immune system is really, really difficult to explain on PF. Immunology understading is rapidly changing because of genomics and Covid research]

Type II diabetes is an inflammatory mediated disease. As a result. you have developed insulin resistance. Insulin no longer controls blood glucose levels correctly.

Causes are considered environmental, mostly dietary
A gene complex is related but not causative.
From webmd:
Genes associated with type 2 diabetes risk include:
TCF7L2[/, which affects insulin secretion and glucose production.
ABCC8, which helps regulate insulin.
CAPN10, which is associated with type 2 diabetes risk in Mexican Americans.
There are usually other disease processes associated with type II. They are labelled as a complex called metabolic syndrome. (has other names)
[/oversimplified]
Reversing the symptoms is what you mean, e.g., correcting abnormally high blood glucose levels and some other symptoms of the disease complex.

Usually a dietary change and/or medicines can halt progression of the disease process.
As soon as you stop taking meds, changing your diet, etc., the symptoms reappear.

That is what reversal means. You are stuck with handing the disease effectively.

On a population level Type II uncontrolled patients as a group tend to progress to hypertension, coronary artery disease, and other problems like neuropathy, retinopathy, kidney issues, and the list goes on.

This is anecdotal evidence of how NOT to handle diabetes. From some of your other posts I am assuming this carries weight with you.

My daughter did such a great job of not controlling her diabetes:
her renal function is <20% of normal,
she lost her right eye,
has marginal vision in the remaining eye ,
diabetic dermopathy - a loss of skin resulting in a deformed brown blotch on 40% of her left lower leg, that get easily infected
--- longer list but you get the idea.

Do NOT mess around with this. And yes, I am trying to scare you into living longer in less pain.
Your question is answered. You now know about reversal. Go here to get qualified help:
https://www.diabetes.orgI think you are not in the US, but I believe they can refer you to good medical help.
 
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