Diffeomorphism From Tangent Bundle to Product

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the tangent bundle of the 1-sphere, denoted as TS^1, is diffeomorphic to the product S^1×ℝ. Participants are exploring the implications of covering the manifold S^1 with charts and the requirements for establishing a diffeomorphism.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the definitions of M and N, and whether S^1 can be covered by a single chart. There is a focus on the need for multiple charts to adequately cover S^1 and the implications this has for the tangent bundle TS^1.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the necessity of multiple charts for S^1 and the implications for TS^1. There is an ongoing exploration of how to describe TS^1 at a point on S^1 and the requirements for establishing a basis for smooth vector fields.

Contextual Notes

There is a recognition that covering S^1 with a single chart is impossible due to its topology, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the original problem statement. Participants are also clarifying the correct formulation of the problem regarding the diffeomorphism.

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Show that TS^1 is diffeomorphic to TM×TN.

(TS^1 is the tangent bundle of the 1-sphere.)

We can use the theorem stating the following.

If M is a smooth n-manifold with or without boundary, and M can be covered by a single smooth chart, then TM is diffeomorphic to M×ℝ^n.

Clearly, I must be looking for a single smooth chart on S^1, but I am very uncertain on how to go about doing this. Any tips on managing the nuances are greatly appreciated.
 
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Arkuski said:
Show that TS^1 is diffeomorphic to TM×TN.

(TS^1 is the tangent bundle of the 1-sphere.)

Have ##M## and ##N## been defined? ##TS^1## has a fairly simple geometric picture, but if we don't know what ##M## and ##N## are, we can't really help you.

We can use the theorem stating the following.

If M is a smooth n-manifold with or without boundary, and M can be covered by a single smooth chart, then TM is diffeomorphic to M×ℝ^n.

Clearly, I must be looking for a single smooth chart on S^1, but I am very uncertain on how to go about doing this. Any tips on managing the nuances are greatly appreciated.

It is impossible to cover ##S^1## with a single chart, since the endpoints of the line would map to the same point.
 
fzero said:
Have ##M## and ##N## been defined?

My mistake, I meant S^1×ℝ instead of M×N
 
fzero said:
It is impossible to cover ##S^1## with a single chart, since the endpoints of the line would map to the same point.
This. It's fairly well known that any atlas on ##S^1## must have at least two charts. The reason, as fzero mentions, is a chart must be equipped with a homeomorphism. For us to use a single chart here, if we start at a point, we must necessarily end on that point. Thus, the map from ##S^1## to ##\mathbb{R}## wouldn't even be single-valued, let alone a homeomorphism. Thus, we'd need two charts.

Arkuski said:
My mistake, I meant S^1×ℝ instead of M×N
You mean "instead of ##TM\times TN##"?
 
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Arkuski said:
My mistake, I meant S^1×ℝ instead of M×N

Mandelbroth said:
You mean "instead of ##TM\times TN##"?

OK, so let's assume that we have to show that ##TS^1## is diffeomorphic to ##S^1\times \mathbb{R}##. Since we know that we need at least two charts to cover ##S^1##, we know that we will need at least two charts to cover ##TS^1##.

You should start by describing ##TS^1## at a point ##p## of ##S^1##. Then pick a covering set of charts for ##S^1## and describe the tangent space on each chart. Ultimately you will want to show that there is a basis for smooth vector fields that is valid at every point of ##S^1##.
 

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