Difference between centroid and break away/in point

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the differences between centroid and breakaway/in points in root locus analysis within control engineering. The centroid is identified as the intersection point of asymptotes, while breakaway points are where branches of the root locus meet and diverge towards zero or infinity. In the given example, the centroid is calculated at -1.67, and breakaway points are noted as -2.5 and -0.78, with -2.5 being excluded from the root locus. The confusion arises from the visual representation where the breakaway point is marked at the same location as the centroid. Clarifying these concepts is essential for a better understanding of root locus behavior.
spoonyluv
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
RLBreakOutIn.png


Hi, I am studying control engineering and we are covering root locus concept right now. My knowledge of this concept is varied..I get some things and others I don't. One thing I don't understand is the difference between centroid and breakaway/in point. So for example for this function: 1/((s)(s+2)(s+3)), we have 3 poles at s=0,-2, -3. The website that has the example calculates the centroid at -1.67 (which I agree with). And the breakaway points are -2.5 and -.78.

-2.5 won't be counted because it isn't part of the root locus. However, what's the role of -.78?. In the picture above the author seems to put the square that represents the breakaway point in the same point as the centroid. I'm not sure why...which tells me that I do not have a good understanding of the role played by the centroid versus breakaway point. if someone can explain in layman terms the difference, i would appreciate it. Thanks!
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
dear u have calculated wrong value for break point. seconed break away point occurs between 0 and 2.
and breakaway points are the point from where two branches meet and tend to either zero or infinity while centroide is just intersection point of asymptote.
 
While I was rolling out a shielded cable, a though came to my mind - what happens to the current flow in the cable if there came a short between the wire and the shield in both ends of the cable? For simplicity, lets assume a 1-wire copper wire wrapped in an aluminum shield. The wire and the shield has the same cross section area. There are insulating material between them, and in both ends there is a short between them. My first thought, the total resistance of the cable would be reduced...
Hi all I have some confusion about piezoelectrical sensors combination. If i have three acoustic piezoelectrical sensors (with same receive sensitivity in dB ref V/1uPa) placed at specific distance, these sensors receive acoustic signal from a sound source placed at far field distance (Plane Wave) and from broadside. I receive output of these sensors through individual preamplifiers, add them through hardware like summer circuit adder or in software after digitization and in this way got an...
I am not an electrical engineering student, but a lowly apprentice electrician. I learn both on the job and also take classes for my apprenticeship. I recently wired my first transformer and I understand that the neutral and ground are bonded together in the transformer or in the service. What I don't understand is, if the neutral is a current carrying conductor, which is then bonded to the ground conductor, why does current only flow back to its source and not on the ground path...
Back
Top