Difference Between Peroxo and Superoxo Bonding to Fe

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The discussion revolves around the nomenclature and characteristics of peroxo and superoxo bonding to iron (Fe), specifically focusing on whether certain binding configurations can be definitively classified as one or the other. The scope includes theoretical considerations and references to specific literature on metalloenzymes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is always accurate to label end-on binding of O to Fe as superoxo and side-on binding as peroxo.
  • One participant notes that the classification depends on the metal, its redox state, and other ligands present, suggesting that definitive naming may not be possible without further calculations.
  • Another participant references a specific paper to inquire about the classification of a structure as side-on versus Fe(III)-peroxo, indicating that the literature may not be consistent.
  • It is proposed that there exists a resonance between different oxidation states of Fe and O, complicating the classification of binding types.
  • One participant emphasizes that the binding type is influenced more by the redox state of the metal and its ligands rather than the redox state of the oxygen itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the classification of peroxo and superoxo bonding to Fe, with multiple competing views and uncertainties expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the binding characteristics may vary based on specific conditions and that theoretical studies are necessary to clarify the nuances of these classifications.

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hello all,
we know that

1) Fe-O-O is end-on binding of O to Fe and
2) [see attachment] is side-on binding of O to Fe (please assume vertical lines/pipe as a single bond).

Now my doubt is:
Is it completely and always true to name 1 as superoxo and 2 as peroxo ?
I am just asking whether the other name for 1 is superoxo and for 2 is peroxo.
thanks
 

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Rajini said:
Is it completely and always true to name 1 as superoxo and 2 as peroxo ?

Nope. It depends on the metal, its redox state, and whatever other ligands you might have.

See e.g. http://www.pnas.org/content/100/7/3635.abstract" paper, and many others from Tolman and Cramer.
(Also, since you seem interested in metalloenzymes, I should mention Siegbahn and Blomberg's work too, since they've done more theoretical studies of metalloenzymes, especially oxygen-activating ones, than anyone else)

Being a theorist, I would hesitate to characterize them as one or the other until I'd done a calculation and seen the spin-density distribution.
 
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Ahh.
I only want to know for Fe !
 
For eg.,
in this paper by Que:
doi:10.1038/nature07371
can i say the structure in Fig. 2, bottom-left, as side-on rather than Fe(III)-peroxo ?
they mention it as Fe(III)-peroxo .
 
It's a peroxo binding side-on to Fe(III), yes.

But let's just be clear, there's a sliding scale here.
You always have a resonance between for instance,
Fe(I)-O2 <-> Fe(II)-superoxo <-> Fe(III)-peroxo
After all, you're just moving electrons, which can easily "be in several places at once".

Quantum-mechanically you never see an exact integer number of electrons. So when you say it's "Fe(III)-peroxo" you're just saying it's mostly like that.
But there's so much going on with spin states, ferromagnetic coupling, etc, that it's difficult to say offhand. Which is of course why they do theoretical studies of this stuff in the first place.

In my experience, the binding (side-on vs end-on) is more due to the redox state of the metal and its other ligands, than due to the redox state of the oxygen.
(And the binding, in turn does influence what redox state the oxygen ends up in. )
 
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Hi i got the essence from your reply.
thanks
 

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