Difference between photon and electron collisions with atoms

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The discussion focuses on the differences between photon and electron collisions with atoms, particularly in the context of atoms in their ground state. Participants explore the effects of these collisions, including excitation and ionization.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of interactions, noting that electrons are charged and interact electromagnetically, while photons interact based on energy. They raise questions about the absorption characteristics of photons versus electrons and explore the implications of these differences on atomic excitation and ionization.

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Some participants have provided insights into the distinct behaviors of photons and electrons during collisions, highlighting the Compton effect and the nature of electromagnetic interactions. The conversation appears to be productive, with participants sharing relevant examples and clarifying concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are operating under the assumption that both types of collisions can lead to excitation and ionization, but they are questioning the underlying mechanisms and effects associated with each type of particle.

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Hi,

Would anyone be able to explain the main differences between the effect of electrons and photons colliding with atoms in the ground state.

As far as I understand they are very similar as both cause excitation and in some cases ionization.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dave
 
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One difference is that the electron is charged while the photon is not. So the photon will collide with the atom based solely on its energy, while the electron will interact electromagnetically with the electrons.

In addition, a photon can be completely absorbed while an electron cannot.
 
The photon could collide with an electron from the atom as described in the Compton effect, pushing the electron a little. The photon will loose some of its energy (therefore frequency as well) and fly off in another direction. An electron could bump into another electron as described as well, but they would not collide like you would think of two marbles, but rather electromagnetically, like dulrich already said.

But both can exite an atom, which might later emit a photon and glow. The electron collision resulting in light is something one finds in an x-ray cathode, or a regular gas lamp like a neon sign. The photon collision resulting in light would be all flouroscense, like one has in these bright colors and most glow-in-the-dark stuff as well.
 
Brilliant, thank you both for your help!
 

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