Different values with rotational kinematic equations

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving rotational kinematic equations for a bicycle wheel rolling without slipping. The user calculated the final angular speed and tangential velocity but received different values from the solution key. The confusion arose from assuming the time for one revolution was 30 seconds, while it is actually much shorter. Clarification was provided that the time for one complete revolution is less than the total time given, leading to the discrepancy in results. Understanding the correct time interval is crucial for accurate calculations in rotational motion.
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[SOLVED] Different values with rotational kinematic equations

Hello everyone,
I got two different values for final angular speed when I tried to use the third and fourth kinematic equations. I filled the template here with the problem with my attempts.

Homework Statement


A bicycle wheel of radius r = 1.5 m starts from rest and rolls 100 m without slipping in 30 s. Assuming that the angular acceleration of the wheel given above was constant, calculate: a) The angular acceleration, b) the final angular velocity c) the tangential velocity and tangential acceleration of a point on the rim after one revolution.

Given

\Delta\theta = 100/1.5 = 66.7 rad

\omega_{i} = 0

\Delta t = 30 s

\alpha is constant

Unknowns

\alpha = ?

\omega = ?

v_{t} = ? and a_{t} = ? when \Delta\theta = 2\pi

Homework Equations



\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t

\omega_{f}^{2} = \omega_{i}^2 + 2 \alpha \Delta \theta

\omega_{f} = \omega_{i} + \alpha \Delta t

The Attempt at a Solution



Part b:

\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t

66.7 = \frac{1}{2}(0 + \omega_{f})(30)

\omega_{f} = 4.45 rad/s

Part a:

\omega_{f} = \omega_{i} + \alpha \Delta t

4.45 = 0 + 30\alpha

\alpha = 0.15 rad/s^2

Part c:

My strategy is to find the final angular velocity \omega_f using the first relevant equation. Then finding the tangential velocity by multiplying \omega_f with the radius.

\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t

2\pi = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + 0)(30)

\omega_{f} = \frac{2\pi}{15} = 0.419

And then:

v_{t} = r\omega = (1.5)(0.419) = 0.6285 m/s

a_{t} = r\alpha = (1.5)(0.15) = 0.255 m/s^2However, the solution key has a different answer. \omega_{f} after one revolution equals 1.37 rad/s and v_{t} = 2.06. Apparently, they used this equation:

\omega_{f}^{2} = \omega_{i}^2 + 2 \alpha \Delta \thetaI'm a little confused. I double checked my calculations, and I am almost sure that I haven't made a calculation error. I appreciate it if someone could help me with this.

Thanks,
Jin
 
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JinM;1573793- 2[tex said:
\pi[/tex] = 1/2 * (0 + \omegaf) * 30

Your mistake is assuming that the time here is 30 seconds. It takes quite a bit less than 30 seconds for the wheel to make one revolution.
 
OH! I get it now. Thanks a lot, D H
 
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