Differential Eqns Separable Equation?

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Homework Statement



Problem given basically in the beginning of the book, Sec. 1.4, about separable equations.

Find general solutions (implicit if necessary, explicit if convenient) of the diff. eq.

dy/dx+2xy^2=0


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There was a previous section where they popped this out of thin air:
A solution of dy/dx=y^2 is y=1/c-x

I'm presuming that that is supposed to be helpful somehow.

The Attempt at a Solution



dy/dx=-2xy^2 => dy/y^2=-2xdx

Now I can't integrate the left side.


I'm sure that is an abysmal way of going at it. So any help would be appreciated.
 
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Prologue said:

Homework Statement



Problem given basically in the beginning of the book, Sec. 1.4, about separable equations.

Find general solutions (implicit if necessary, explicit if convenient) of the diff. eq.

dy/dx+2xy^2=0


Homework Equations



There was a previous section where they popped this out of thin air: A solution of dy/dx=y^2 is 1/c-x

I'm presuming that that is supposed to be helpful somehow.

The Attempt at a Solution



dy/dx=-2xy^2 => dy/y^2=-2xdx

Now I can't integrate the left side.


I'm sure that is an abysmal way of going at it. So any help would be appreciated.

That's a perfectly good way of going at it. The question is why are you having trouble integrating y-2dy? Didn't you learn a general formula for integrating powers? (Other than -1)
 
I haven't learned a formula for that. I will bet that it involves grabbing the derivative of the denominator from somewhere and thinking of it as a u-substitution but I'm not seeing where that is possible.


EDIT: Ok I just ignored that y was a function of x and integrated, and it worked out perfectly fine. I am supposing that just this idea is a point of this exercise. When you integrate something in this way, you have an equation and integrate both sides. When you do it that way y is no longer taken as being a function of x. I can accept that as the point, but now why is that possible?
 
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Ah, I think you're looking at it like this \frac{f'(x)}{[f(x)]^2} in your head, and somehow you think of it as a u-substitution where u = f(x).

Basically the general formula for integrating is

\int{x^rdx}= \frac{1}{r+1} x^{r+1}+C where r \neq -1
 
Thanks for the reply, konthelion. I was in the process of editing the last post when you posted, I apologize.

I do know that general rule of integration (it has been severely beaten into my brain) but I was having trouble with the y. My head is saying 'Hey, hold on a minute y is a function of x, you can't do that.' Apparently my head is wrong.
 
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