Differential equation 5y4y' = x2y' + 2xy

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution of:

5y4y' = x2y' + 2xy


2. The attempt at a solution

Well I've so far tried to simplify by making the equation really:

(5y4-x2)y' - 2xy = 0

Now this will let us use exact equations such as:

N(x,y)= 5y4-x2
and
M(x,y)= -2xy

since ∂N=∂M

After this though I am not sure what to do.
 
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If you have ##\Phi(x,y)=0##, when you differentiate it, you get
$$\frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial y}dy = 0.$$ Compare that to what you have
$$(-2xy)\,dx + (5y^4-x^2)\,dy = 0.$$ How would you (partially) recover ##\Phi## from M(x,y) or N(x,y)?
 


vela said:
If you have ##\Phi(x,y)=0##, when you differentiate it, you get
$$\frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial y}dy = 0.$$ Compare that to what you have
$$(-2xy)\,dx + (5y^4-x^2)\,dy = 0.$$ How would you (partially) recover ##\Phi## from M(x,y) or N(x,y)?

I then took the integral of M(x,y) thus giving me f-x2y

Correct or no?
 


That's good, so you have ##\Phi=-x^2y + f(y)##. Now differentiate that with respect to y and compare the result to N(x,y).
 


vela said:
That's good, so you have ##\Phi=-x^2y + f(y)##. Now differentiate that with respect to y and compare the result to N(x,y).

finding the solution to the f(y) gives us y5 then plugging this into the integral part we get a solution of:

F(x,y) = y5-x2y

Is that it?
 
Could you help with another? The differential equation is:

y' = 2(xy' + y)y3
 
Almost. You just need to include the constant of integration.
 
vela said:
Almost. You just need to include the constant of integration.

F(x,y) = y5-x2y + C ?
 
Yup, that's right, and F(x,y) should be set to 0. Remember you're trying to find y(x), not F(x,y). F(x,y)=0 specifies y implicitly as a function of x.
 
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vela said:
Yup, that's right, and F(x,y) should be set to 0. Remember you're trying to find y(x), not F(x,y). F(x,y)=0 specifies y implicitly as a function of x.

Thanks! Could you help with the other equation I posted? This one I don't even have a clue how to start
 
  • #11
You could start by checking if it's exact.
 
  • #12
No it's not, I got

N=1-2xy3
and
M=-2y4

which their partials don't equal each other
 
  • #13
In that case, try finding an integrating factor that'll make it exact.
 
  • #14
astrofunk21 said:
Could you help with another? The differential equation is:

y' = 2(xy' + y)y3

It would have been better to start a new thread for this new problem.

(xy' + y) is d(xy)/dx .

See if you can use that.
 

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