Differential Equation Separable Variables

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The discussion revolves around a first-order separable differential equation related to the spread of a contagious disease within a population. The equation presented is \(\frac{dN}{dt} = k (N-n)n\), where \(N\) represents the total population, \(n(t)\) is the number of infected individuals, and \(k\) is a constant. Participants are attempting to find \(n\) as a function of time \(t\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct form of the differential equation, with some suggesting it should be \(\frac{dn}{dt} = k (N-n)n\) instead of \(\frac{dN}{dt}\). There are questions about the roles of \(N\) and \(n\), particularly regarding whether \(N\) is a constant or a variable. Attempts to integrate the equation using partial fractions are mentioned, but confusion arises about how to isolate \(n\).

Discussion Status

The conversation has led to some clarification regarding the equation's structure, with participants recognizing that \(N\) is a constant. One participant reports successfully applying the suggested changes to reach a correct answer, indicating that guidance has been provided that helped resolve some confusion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity in the original problem statement regarding whether \(N\) is treated as a constant or a variable, which has influenced the participants' approaches. The problem is derived from an exam paper, and the original poster expresses frustration over the lack of detailed solutions in the source material.

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Hi all, I have a first order separable differential equation that I find a little difficult to solve. The question is from an old maths exam paper from my country. The book I obtained it from only has the answer, but I'd really like to know how to obtain the correct general solution. Okay, here is the question :

1. A large population of N individuals contains, at time t = 0, just one individual with a contagious disease. Assume that the spread of the disease is governed by the equation

[tex]\frac{dN}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex]



where [tex]n(t)[/tex] is the the number of infected individuals after a time t days and k is a constant.


a) Find n explicitly as a function of t.

Part a) gives me a hint telling me to rewrite [tex]\frac{1}{[(N-n)n]}[/tex] as the partial fractions [tex]\frac{1}{N}(\frac{1}{N-n} + \frac{1}{n})[/tex]. I manage to work this out, and I obtain this :

[tex]\int \frac{1}{N}(\frac{1}{N-n} + \frac{1}{n})dN = \int kdt[/tex]

But I got stuck here as I'm not sure how to go about this as all attempts give me more than one form of n, one of n and one of e to the power of n. I had a look at the back of the book and the answer gives :

[tex]n = \frac{Ne^{Nkt}}{N - 1 + e^{Nkt}}[/tex]

So this gave me some help, so in the end I had this :

[tex]\int (\frac{1}{N-n} + \frac{1}{n})dN = \int Nkdt[/tex]

But I am not sure how to get just one n term because I don't get anywhere near the result that I am looking for when I integrate both sides.

I appreciate any helpful advice on this. Thanks in advance for any correspondence.
 
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First I assume [tex]\frac{dN}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex] should be [tex]\frac{dn}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex]

What is N, and why are you differentiating and integrating over N? From your problem statement N seems to be a constant.

[tex] \int (\frac{1}{N-n} + \frac{1}{n})dN = \int Nkdt[/tex]



But I am not sure how to get just one n term because I don't get anywhere near the result that I am looking for when I integrate both sides.

You are making a mess when it comes to N and n. One is a constant the other is a function.
 
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Cyosis said:
What is N, and why are you differentiating and integrating over N?

N is the number of individuals in the population.

Cyosis said:
First I assume [tex]\frac{dN}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex] should be [tex]\frac{dn}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex]

No, I took that right from the book, this is what is confusing me, should I assume the book is wrong and it should be [tex]\frac{dn}{dt}[/tex]?
 
I believe that the original differential equation should be
[tex]\frac{dn}{dt} = k (N-n)n[/tex]

In this equation N and k are constants, and n = n(t) is the number of infected individuals.
 
Thanks Mark and Cyosis, you two have been a terrific help! I did what you both suggested and used [tex]\frac{dn}{dt}[/tex] this time, and it gave me the correct answer. I really appreciate the help, I was so frustrated that I couldn't solve this question but now that it has been explained to me that N is a constant it makes so much sense. I'm away to change the case of that n now :smile:, Thanks again.
 

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