Diode Power Calculation: Understanding the Basics

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of average power in diodes, specifically addressing the confusion around using peak voltage and RMS voltage. Participants clarify that the average power during each half-cycle can be calculated correctly, but combining the two half-cycles' power values incorrectly leads to an inflated total. The factor of ½ in the student's equation may stem from either RMS conversion or duty cycle considerations, necessitating further clarification from the student. The importance of understanding the derivation of equations and avoiding assumptions about the student's knowledge is emphasized. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a solid grasp of diode power calculations before progressing in the topic.
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Hello all,

I've just started learning about diodes.. I believe I've done this problem correctly (question in black), although want to make certain I'm understanding the very basics before moving on. Thank you
 
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The applied voltage has a peak amplitude of ±35 volt.
You should be using the RMS voltage, for half the time.
So why did you use a factor of ½ in; P = V² / 2·R

Is this homework or private study?
 
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Hello all,

I've just started learning about diodes.. I believe I've done this problem correctly (question in black), although want to make certain I'm understanding the very basics before moving on. Thank you
You have found the average power during each half-cycle correctly.

However, adding the two powers is wrong. I’ll make up a simple example for illustration:
Frequency = 1Hz (So each half-cycle takes 0.5s)
Average power during 1st half of cycle = 8W
Average power during 2nd half of cycle = 20W
Energy/cycle = 8*0.5 + 20*0.5 = 14J
Average power during complete cycle = ##\frac {14J}{1s} = 14W## (not 28W).

Note to @Baluncore
$$P_{avg} = \frac {V_{peak}^2}{2R}$$
is fine because the average power is half the peak power.
This will be clear if you apply ##V_{peak} = {V_{rms} √2}##
 
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You have found the average power during each half-cycle correctly.
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is fine because the average power is half the peak power.
You cannot be sure if the factor of ½ employed by the student was for the RMS conversion, or for the 50% duty cycle conversion. For that reason we should not do the students homework, but should ask the student to explain their derivation of their equation. @WRS got it half correct.
 
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Baluncore said:
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You cannot be sure if the factor of ½ employed by the student was for the RMS conversion, or for the 50% duty cycle conversion. For that reason we should not do the students homework, but should ask the student to explain their derivation of their equation. @WRS got it half correct.
I see what you mean. Since the OP had written$$P_{AVG} = \frac {V_M^2}{2R}$$I assumed ##V_M## was intended to be the maximum (peak) voltage, so thie formula simply appeared to be a statement of a ‘standard’ result.

However, I agree that it is quite possible that the OP had misunderstood. It would have been better to let him clarify this.
 
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