Direction of magnetic field experienced by wire

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of the magnetic field experienced by a wire due to currents in adjacent wires. The subject area includes electromagnetism and the application of the right-hand rule, as well as concepts related to the Lorentz force.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the right-hand rule to determine the direction of magnetic fields and the implications of the Lorentz force on a wire carrying current. Questions arise about what additional information is needed to calculate the force experienced by the wire.

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Some participants have offered hints and guidance regarding the Lorentz force and the nature of interactions between currents in different directions. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly in relation to relativistic effects and the behavior of charged particles in magnetic fields.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles without providing direct solutions. Participants are encouraged to consider the implications of current direction on the forces experienced by the wires.

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I know that, according to the right hand rule, the direction of the field lines for X and Z are anti-clockwise and Y is clockwise. What do I do next? Thank you!
 

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Let me give you a hint. Do you know about Lorentz force ? Lorentz force is the force experienced by a charged particle moving in an electromagnetic field. In this case, the charged particles flowing through Z are under the influence of the magnetic field created by the currents carried by X and Y. So you need to calculate the resultant Lorentz force on Z due to the magnetic fields created by X and Y.
 
Approach the problem by asking what you need to know. You want the FORCE experienced by the wire at z. To find that, what do you need to know?
 
If you've learned about relativity, its allways cool to look at these problems relativistically, which is where magnetic fields emerge from anyways.

If the current between 2 wires next to each other is moving in opposite directions (so the electrons are moving in opposite directions), electrons will each see electrons from the other wire moving past them really really fast. This means that they'll see the space that the electrons in the opposite wire are in contract, the field density of electrons in the other wire increase, and will feel a net negative charge in the other wire, thus getting repelled.

On the other hand, if the currents are flowing in the same direction, electrons in one wire will see the electrons in the other wire as flowing in the same direction at the same velocity, therefore not moving relative to each other. However, from their point of view they will see protons move by really, really fast, therefore the space the protons exist in contracts, the positive field density increases, and they feel a net positive charge in the other wire, and get attracted.

Currents same direction -> Attract
Current Different direction -> Repel

Here is a really good video that shows this without any fancy math:



Finally, the strength of the attraction and repulsion is inversely proportional to the distance between the wires.

I think you have enough to solve your problem now.
 

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