Directions of currents in Kirchhoff's 2nd law problems

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The discussion focuses on applying Kirchhoff's laws to determine the current at point X in a circuit, specifically addressing the challenge of correctly identifying current directions. Initial attempts to solve the problem resulted in incorrect answers due to mislabeling current directions and potential differences. It is emphasized that if the assumed direction of current is wrong, the calculated value should be negative, indicating a need to reassess the setup of the equations. Attention to the polarities of associated potentials is crucial after assigning current directions. Correct application of Kirchhoff's laws is essential for accurate results in circuit analysis.
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Homework Statement



Apply Kirchhoff's laws to find the current at point X in the circuit shown. What is the direction of the current?

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Homework Equations



V = IR
Kirchhoff's 1st law: ∑Currents entering junction = ∑Currents leaving junctions
Kirchhoff's 2nd law: ∑EMFs in a loop = ∑PDs in a loop

The Attempt at a Solution



This problem is simple enough but my issue is how to tell initially which directions the currents are going in. My initial approach was as follows:

ElectricityProblemIncorrectCurrents.jpg


However, this leads to incorrect answers:

By Kirchoff's 1st law, I2 = I0 + I1
By Kirchoff's 2nd law, the sum of the emfs in the top loop must equal the sum of the pds:
EMF = 4V
PDS:
V = IR, V = 20 x I0
V = IR, V = 20 x I1
So 20 x I0 + 20 x I1 = 4
Using I2 = I0 + I1 from earlier,
20 x I2 = 20 x I0 + 20 x I1
substituting this into 20 x I0 + 20 x I1 = 4
gives 20 x I2 = 4
I2 = 4 / 20 = 0.2A

Applying Kirchhoff's 2nd law to the big loop (ie ignoring middle resistor):
EMF = 10 + 4 = 14V
∑PDs = 80 x I2 + 20 x I0
80 x I2 + 20 x I0 = 14
80 x 0.2 + 20 x I0 = 14
I0 = -0.1A

I2 = I0 + I1
I1 = 0.2 -- 0.1 = 0.3 A which is not the correct answer.

Why should labelling the currents in this way not give the correct answer?
 
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In these problems, if the assumed direction of the current is incorrect, the value obtained should just be the negative of the actual current magnitude. I haven't checked the set up of your equations, but there may be other problems there.
 
User11037 said:
So 20 x I0 + 20 x I1 = 4
This equation is not correct. You have a sign wrong.

Once you have assigned directions to currents, you must pay close attention to polarities of associated potentials.
 
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