Dismantling 3 Wheeler Gearbox: Idler in Differential Case

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The discussion centers on the unique design of a 3-speed tuk-tuk gearbox, which features an idler gear located in the differential case rather than the gearbox itself. This design allows the entire differential to rotate in reverse when the reverse gear is engaged, enabling reverse operation in any forward gear. Concerns are raised about the safety implications of having multiple forward gears available in reverse. The design may have evolved from motorcycle gear systems, potentially simplifying the mechanism. The rationale for this configuration, particularly in rear-engine, rear-drive vehicles, remains unclear, highlighting the need for further exploration of its advantages.
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i recently dismantled a 3 speed (tuk tuk) gearbox.But unlike usual 4 wheelers,i found the
idler in the differential case.usually for reverse ,idler is also present in the gearbox .
When i asked i was told that in 3 wheelers when the reverse gear is applied,the differential as a whole rotates in the opposite direction ,so reverse can be applied in any gear(1or 2 or 3).
But i have always read that reverse gear is a single gear having its own gear ratio.
 
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I meant a 3 wheeler gearbox having 4 gears (forward) and one reverse
 
Seems a little dangerous to keep all 4 gears available in reverse.

Two thoughts:
The gearbox (or gearbox design) could have evolved from that of a motorcycle (without reverse). It may just be simpler that way.

Putting the reverse gear at the differential keeps drive components between gearbox and differential rotating in only one direction. Not sure if this offers an advantage.
 
but nobody wants 4 gears in reverse so where is the advantage in keeping the idler with
the differential.Is it because it is a rear engine rear drive?
 
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