Do Without Electricity: Carpets, Boilers, Kettles & More

[wolram]

ELECTRICITY, Ok if you do not have carpets, you will not need a vacuum
cleaner, If all your heating is done by solid fuel, you will not need electric
boilers, if the same solid fuel heated a cooking range, you do not need
electric kettles etc, etc, so i think it would be great if it was banned for
home use, the only exception is a small generator for pc.

 

[arildno]

It's a free country: if you want to stand in a river and scrub your clothes clean, you can do so (unless the river-owner objects).
I prefer my washing machine fully functional, though.

 

[wolram]

Arildno

You san go back to the good old wash tub, a bit of exersise is good for you.

 

[arildno]

Arildno

You san go back to the good old wash tub, a bit of exersise is good for you.

Very true; I'm planning to.

 

[wolram]

Just think, you could have candle lit dinners every night.

 

[arildno]

I'm not quite sure of your motivation on a home ban; environmental concerns?

 

[wolram]

I'm not quite sure of your motivation on a home ban; environmental concerns?

Not so much, its more getting back to a healthier life style, i mean if you look
around any home every thing is electrically powered, people are even buying
electric paper shredders, why?

 

[arildno]

So it is personal indulgence and laziness you dislike, then?

 

[wolram]

So it is personal indulgence and laziness you dislike, then?

More the modern world, life is to fast these days, and to heavily reliant
on oil and electricity, i know everyone has to earn a living, but making
paper shredders? People can live comfortably without all these gizmos
surly, so maybe a slow roll back in time.

 

[arildno]

Well, I think of many of these gizmos as some sort of illusions and glamours by which you are fooled and, being in possession in them, believe yourself to be happy.

If you would promote a self-reliant lifestyle/happiness rather than gadget-dependent brainwashing, then I'm all for it.

Don't see why I should chuck out that washing machine, though..

 

[wolram]

Well, I think of many of these gizmos as some sort of illusions and glamours by which you are fooled and, being in possession in them, believe yourself to be happy.

If you would promote a self-reliant lifestyle/happiness rather than gadget-dependent brainwashing, then I'm all for it.

Don't see why I should chuck out that washing machine, though..

Caus you got no lectrictisity that why.

 

[Lisa!]

wolram!If you had a jealous wife/gf who wouldn't let you to spend time here or whetever else,you wouldn't need a small generator for pc too!

 

[arildno]

PLease!
I love my lectricticity, don't take it away from me.
I'll give you anything butt my lectricticity!

 

[wolram]

wolram!If you had a jealous wife/gf who wouldn't let you to spend time here or whetever else,you wouldn't need a small generator for pc too!

But i haven't one And i bet you use all them there lectrisical things

 

[Lisa!]

arildno and wolram
please stop crying.you don't need to worry about it.I'm sure your girlfriends,let's be hopeful you'll get one , will have no problem if you spend whole the day everywhere except beside them! In fact they'll be pleased about that!

 

[wolram]

arildno and wolram
please stop crying.you don't need to worry about it.I'm sure your girlfriends,let's be hopeful you'll get one , will have no problem if you spend whole the day everywhere except beside them! In fact they'll be pleased about that!

Ah but if you got no lectrictisity they might be affraid of the dark, and want
to be by us

 

[arildno]

Let's keep moi out of this:
If wollie brings a ladyfriend home and he insists to carry her over the doorstep because the lack of lectric lamps might cause her to stumble in the dark, she'll simply slap him and refuse to enter his den.


(Nor would she like stumbling in the dark, either.)

 

[Lisa!]

Ah but if you got no lectrictisity they might be affraid of the dark, and want
to be by us

Do you know why people are afraif of the dark?

 

[wolram]

Do you know why people are afraif of the dark?

Well it could be because of things like that giant spider just above your head.

 

[Lisa!]

Well it could be because of things like that giant spider just above your head.

Personaly I'm not afraid of the dark since I'm sure there isn't any dangerous guy around.But I don't think it's a good idea to be with someone who you're afraid of the dark because of him!

 

[wolram]

Personaly I'm not afraid of the dark since I'm sure there isn't any dangerous guy around.But I don't think it's a good idea to be with someone who you're afraid of the dark because of him!

Theres nowt t fear bout t dark ceptin fear I am self, so i am going to continue
with my anti lectrictisity campaign.
ps I hope therse no boogy men in your street

 

[Integral]

ELECTRICITY, Ok if you do not have carpets, you will not need a vacuum
cleaner, If all your heating is done by solid fuel, you will not need electric
boilers, if the same solid fuel heated a cooking range, you do not need
electric kettles etc, etc, so i think it would be great if it was banned for
home use, the only exception is a small generator for pc.

So naturally you are speaking of a wood stove for heating and cooking. This is a very wonderful idea... except... I live in one of the more heavily forested regions of the world (out of the tropical rain forests) Here, in many areas the use of wood stoves has become a pollution problem and are banned for at least part of the year.

Also ancient Rome and other old civilizations relied heavily on wood as a source of energy, it did not take long before you had to travel miles to find wood to burn. This self created scarcity may have been a factor in the fall of several civilizations.

Air pollution was a sever problem in cities of the early industrial age which used coal as the main fuel. While such solid fuels seem to be a convenient solution they also carry and number of problems of their own.

 

[dextercioby]

Guys,how can one live without a refrigerator...? How do you suggest to keep the food cold without electric energy...?


Daniel.

 

[wolram]

So naturally you are speaking of a wood stove for heating and cooking. This is a very wonderful idea... except... I live in one of the more heavily forested regions of the world (out of the tropical rain forests) Here, in many areas the use of wood stoves has become a pollution problem and are banned for at least part of the year.

Also ancient Rome and other old civilizations relied heavily on wood as a source of energy, it did not take long before you had to travel miles to find wood to burn. This self created scarcity may have been a factor in the fall of several civilizations.

Air pollution was a sever problem in cities of the early industrial age which used coal as the main fuel. While such solid fuels seem to be a convenient solution they also carry and number of problems of their own.

Well what about methane? we could have a policy that all bio degrade ables
are used for this,

 

[wolram]

Guys,how can one live without a refrigerator...? How do you suggest to keep the food cold without electric energy...?


Daniel.

You have a cold cellar, if you stay away from mass produced food stuff it
should keep well.

 

[Lisa!]

Guys,how can one live without a refrigerator...? How do you suggest to keep the food cold without electric energy...?


Daniel.

you could be a vegetarian and even produce what you need in a garden.

 

[arildno]

You can wring the necks of your own hens.

 

[Evo]

My grandmother lived in what was once a hunting lodge for King Louis in the Jura mountains in France (not sure which one, there was a huge plaque imbedded in the wall stating it was his property). It was very rustic, she had electricity for lights, but used bottled gas or wood to cook. There was an outhouse. The barn doors were the mouth of a cat, you couldn't tell unless you walked downhill then looked up and the barn was the cat's face. I loved that place.

Part of the house was bricked off and my sister and I used to pretend that someone had been walled up alive in that section.

 

[wolram]

My grandmother lived in what was once a hunting lodge for King Louis in the Jura mountains in France (not sure which one, there was a huge plaque imbedded in the wall stating it was his property). It was very rustic, she had electricity for lights, but used bottled gas or wood to cook. There was an outhouse. The barn doors were the mouth of a cat, you couldn't tell unless you walked downhill then looked up and the barn was the cat's face. I loved that place.

Part of the house was bricked off and my sister and I used to pretend that someone had been walled up alive in that section.

That sounds ideal, i bet you and your sister got up to no good.

 

[Moonbear]

ELECTRICITY, Ok if you do not have carpets, you will not need a vacuum
cleaner, If all your heating is done by solid fuel, you will not need electric
boilers, if the same solid fuel heated a cooking range, you do not need
electric kettles etc, etc, so i think it would be great if it was banned for
home use, the only exception is a small generator for pc.

Sounds like camping! How about we just swap my electric stove for a gas stove and I keep all the other electrical things. I wouldn't be too happy right now without a fan or air conditioner running, especially if I also didn't have a cold refrigerator full of cold beverages. Candle light is nice, but really tough to read by at night. Oh, and don't forget there's electricity required for that phone line so your generator-powered PC can connect to the internet so we can be charmed by your presence.

 

[wolram]

you could be a vegetarian and even produce what you need in a darden.

Good point Lisa

 

[wolram]

Sounds like camping! How about we just swap my electric stove for a gas stove and I keep all the other electrical things. I wouldn't be too happy right now without a fan or air conditioner running, especially if I also didn't have a cold refrigerator full of cold beverages. Candle light is nice, but really tough to read by at night. Oh, and don't forget there's electricity required for that phone line so your generator-powered PC can connect to the internet so we can be charmed by your presence.

Flattery will get you 10Kwh, then that's it, i will think of something for the PC.
and i have invented the bookworms candle light reading glasses just for you.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

When Direct TV comes up with a rubber band powered system, let me know. Until then the power stays on.

Besides, if we lose power, we lose water.

 

[Lisa!]

ok I think there are lots of advantages in wolram's suggestion:
1.you should do your chores like washing clothes,dishes,... by your hands,so
a)you don't need to join a gym because you'll stay in shape
b)you have no extra time to spend through web,so you don't need PC anymore
c)you'd be too tired that you'll go to bed early at night,so you don't need lamps...(otherwise you can use candles)
2.if you feel cold you can put on lots of clothes and because you're in shape you don't feel the weather is hot.and I think because wolram's suggesstion decrease air poloution, we'll get rid of global warming anyway.
3.all people have to be vegetarian,so we can save animals' lives and more important than that people won't tend to use violence against each other.and there would be no war because of energy sources,so we get the world peace!

You can wring the necks of your own hens.

 

[wolram]

I have appointed Lisa as my spokes person, OFER, organization for
electrical reduction, is now open for membership, please sign up below.
Lisa is £200K plus expenses ok?

 

[Lisa!]

OFER, organization for
electrical reduction,

E stands for energy not electrical!

please sign up below.
Lisa is £200K plus expenses ok?

That's funny!I think the only people who may join OFER,are stingy people!and you're asking them to pay for it!

 

[wolram]

Ok, totally ignoring her upstairs, won't mention any names tracherous (L).
The reduction of ELECTRICITY, (L), is the only practical way forward,
inventions of non electrical appliances is therefore a matter of urgency.

Please, give brief description below. Thankyou and membership to OFER
is FREE (L).

 

[Lisa!]

That's a shame.we even didn't get 1 member.ok my suggesstions:

1.change the name of the thread to OFER
2.we need some advertising:
well,we can start it by your signature and avatar.so we need an eyecatching slogan which you use as your signature.you should link this thread to your signature.perhaps it should be "Join OFER"!and your slogan "OFER will make the world a wonderful place!"(please think about it yourself because I'm too tired and I have a terrible headache!"and your avatar should be simply "OFER"!
3.not only you should make it free but also you should give members some advantages!(I think about it as soon as I felt better!)

Ok, totally ignoring her upstairs, won't mention any names tracherous (L).
The reduction of ELECTRICITY, (L), is the only practical way forward,
inventions of non electrical appliances is therefore a matter of urgency.

Please, give brief description below. Thankyou and membership to OFER
is FREE (L).

I meant your organazation should be for energy reduction!(could you please do sth about F in ofer!F makes it ugly! )

 

[wolram]

I hope that headache gets better soon Lisa.

 

[Nylex]

The Amish live without electricity, I don't think I'd be able to cope though!

 

[Smurf]

I'm so bumbed that a thread titled 'Doing without it' turned out to be about electricity

 

[Lisa!]

Nylex,humans have abilities to do everything.It's not good that our lives would be depend on things out of our existence.I'm too tired to discuss right now.join OFER now and be sure you won't miss anything.

I hope that headache gets better soon Lisa.

Thanks and I hope you think about what I said.be sure I'm not saying nonsenses because of my headache.

 

[wolram]

I'm so bumbed that a thread titled 'Doing without it' turned out to be about electricity

Were you thinking of joining a monestry?

 

[honestrosewater]

The Organization for Energy/Electricity Reduction sounds like a, um, very creative person trying to prove "mainstream physics is wrong". What about:
Liberals for Electricity Waste Discontinuance (LEWD)
Friends Undertaking Electricity Liberation (FUEL)
New United Thinkers Targeting Electricity Reduction Society (NUTTERS)
World Alliance Nobly Keeping Electricity Reliance Small (WANKERS)

Anyone else have suggestions??

 

[wolram]

The Organization for Energy/Electricity Reduction sounds like a, um, very creative person trying to prove "mainstream physics is wrong". What about:
Liberals for Electricity Waste Discontinuance (LEWD)
Friends Undertaking Electricity Liberation (FUEL)
New United Thinkers Targeting Electricity Reduction Society (NUTTERS)
World Alliance Nobly Keeping Electricity Reliance Small (WANKERS)

Anyone else have suggestions??

Hmmm, i detect someone who is not taking ofer, SERIOUSLY
, probably someone who uses an electric paper shreader
As a good gesture, i am offering 1doz candles, to the first 100 members.

 

[honestrosewater]

Hmmm, i detect someone who is not taking ofer, SERIOUSLY
, probably someone who uses an electric paper shreader
As a good gesture, i am offering 1doz candles, to the first 100 members.

You mean you are ofering 1doz candles...

 

[Evo]

Hmmm, i detect someone who is not taking ofer, SERIOUSLY
, probably someone who uses an electric paper shreader
As a good gesture, i am offering 1doz candles, to the first 100 members.

Well, since my electricity is fried, count me in!

Actually, it appears that it was NOT lightning that caused all of my appliances to self destruct, it was NASA's interference with that comet! I am now suing NASA.

 

[wolram]

You mean you are ofering 1doz candles...

Ok, good one HRWWB, butt you will have to hurry, the first member is cueing up
to join.

 

[wolram]

Well, since my electricity is fried, count me in!

Actually, it appears that it was NOT lightning that caused all of my appliances to self destruct, it was NASA's interference with that comet! I am now suing NASA.

Well to be absolutely honest Evo, i have sort of invented the lectrictrisiy
neutral iser, and the first test seemed to have, oops your candles
are on the way express delivery

 

[hypatia]

My cabin in the north has no electric, I spent 6 months there a few years back, and found I had adapted very well. I made a very well insulated ice box, and with block ice, it kept things cold for 5 or more days. Theres a root cellar, to keep veggies in, but most of the time I sunk heavy stoneware bowls into the creek{covered with a plate and a rock} and things remained chilled. Bottles of wine worked well that way too.
If you have reflector* candle or oil lamp holders, you can read easily at night.
I became a master of cooking and baking with wood, which I still do in my yard.
The well is around 100 years old, so I boiled all drinking/cooking water, which was kind of a pain. Neighbors helped me build a well house, to keep it from freezing in the winter.
I washed cloths in a old copper wash boiler, hah, but nothing got ironed, even tho I have old sadirons. I did find myself wearing the things that washed easy, most often.



* made of mercury glass