Does a hydrogen-oxygen mixture require ignition to react?

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The discussion centers on the ignition characteristics of hydrogen and oxygen mixtures. It is established that this mixture does not spontaneously react at any concentration without ignition. While theoretically, a reaction can occur at room temperature, it happens very slowly, making it largely unobservable without specific kinetic data. The conversation also touches on the autoignition temperature of hydrogen in air, noted to be approximately 500 °C (932 °F), which some participants find surprisingly high. There is an acknowledgment that this temperature can vary based on the mixture's composition, reinforcing the complexity of the reaction dynamics. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the importance of ignition for hydrogen and oxygen reactions and the slow kinetics involved at lower temperatures.
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Does mixture of hydrogen and oxygen actually has to be ignited or the reaction occurs even without ignition when some critical H:O proportion is reached?
 
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Nope, it doesn't spontaneously react at any concentration.
 
In theory such mixture reacts even at room temperature, albeit very slowly. But I don't have access to any kinetic data, so I have no idea whether the reaction at room temperature is observable or not.
 
Which reminds me: if you heat the mixture continuously (starting at room temperature and gradually increasing but not to slow) at what temperature would it ignite?
 
Borek said:
In theory such mixture reacts even at room temperature, albeit very slowly.

In theory, diamonds turn into graphite at room temperature, albeit very slowly :wink:

Thank god for slow reaction kinetics - or we'd all instantly die in a ball of flame.
 
Actually I think I've found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen

"The hydrogen autoignition temperature, the temperature of spontaneous ignition in air, is 500 °C (932 °F)."

That high! ...I would have thought it's much lower. ...No way; that must be wrong. (?)
 
SAZAR said:
"The hydrogen autoignition temperature, the temperature of spontaneous ignition in air, is 500 °C (932 °F)."

This is only some kind of approximation, as autoignition temperature is surely a function of the mixture composition.

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SAZAR said:
That high! ...I would have thought it's much lower. ...No way; that must be wrong. (?)

Sounds about right to me.

As Borek said, it changes a bit with composition though.
 
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