Does Electric Field Intensity Depend on Separation Distance or Charge on Plates?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether the electric field intensity between two parallel plates is influenced by the separation distance or solely by the charge on the plates. Participants explore theoretical implications and practical scenarios, including cases with and without a connected battery.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the claim that electric field intensity is independent of separation distance, citing the equation E = V/d.
  • Another participant suggests that the independence of electric field intensity from separation distance holds true under the condition that the plate diameter is much larger than the plate separation.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that when a battery is connected, the electric field will depend on the distance between the plates, as the charge will change with distance.
  • Participants reference Gauss's law to support the argument that electric field intensity can be expressed as E = Q/[(epsilon-nought)A], indicating independence from plate separation under certain conditions.
  • One participant discusses the symmetry of electric fields produced by large plates, suggesting that uniform charge distribution leads to a constant electric field when viewed as infinite planes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between electric field intensity, separation distance, and charge on the plates. There is no consensus, as some argue for independence under specific conditions while others assert dependence when a battery is connected.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion hinges on assumptions regarding plate dimensions relative to separation distance and the conditions of the circuit (connected vs. disconnected battery). These factors influence the applicability of the discussed equations and principles.

David Furlong
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I have a text that claims that the intensity of the electric field between two parallel plates is independent of the separation distance and depends only on the charge on the plates. Is this correct?
 
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Only so long as the plate diameter (or, for a square plate, side length) is much larger than the plate separation.
 
As a general statement it sounds wrong to me !
The equation for electric field STRENGTH (I assume that is what your text means as intensity) is
E = V/d where V = the voltage between the plates and d is their separation.
Where did the text come from?
 
Your'e right, technician, that E = V/d, but for the parallel plate capacitor with plate separation << plate diameter, Gauss's law yields another expression for E, namely E = Q/[(epsilon-nought)A]. So if (like David Furlong) we use charge rather than voltage as our electrical variable, E is indeed independent of plate separation, with the proviso I gave above.
 
Assuming a constant charge (capacitor disconnected from battery) the voltage will increase when you increase the distance between the plates so that the ratio V/d stays the same and the electric field will be constant. Of course, as long as the distance is small compared with the width of the plates.
 
Thanks for responses Nasu and Philip !
I had a battery connected to parallel plates in mind.
Cheers
 
In this case (battery connected) the electric field will be dependent on the distance between plates. The charge will change when d changes.
 
It's because of symmetry. If the width and height of the plates are much larger than their separation, they are effectively flat and infinite planes. For a flat infinite plane of uniform charge distribution, symmetry dictates that the only possible field produced is uniform and constant. And you don't need two plates. One plate will have the same result. If you are very close to a single plate with uniform charge, such that it appears to be infinite and height and width, the field will be constant and uniform.
 

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