Doppler Effect Stationary Source/Observer on a Spring

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a microphone attached to a spring, detecting sound from a stationary source. The microphone's motion is described by simple harmonic motion, with specific parameters given, including frequency and period. The task is to determine the amplitude of the motion based on the observed frequency changes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss combining equations for maximum and minimum frequencies to find maximum velocity. There is uncertainty about how to utilize the given frequency difference effectively. Some participants suggest using differentiation to relate amplitude and maximum velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some guidance provided on how to approach the frequency equations. There is acknowledgment of different methods to relate position and velocity, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to ignore sound reflections and a specific speed of sound value provided. The original poster expresses frustration about the problem's complexity, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement


A microphone is attached to a spring that is suspended from the ceiling. Directly below on the floor is a stationary 540-Hz source of sound. The microphone vibrates up and down in simple harmonic motion with a period of 2.20 s. The difference between the maximum and minimum sound frequencies detected by the microphone is 1.83 Hz. Ignoring any reflections of sound in the room and using 343 m/s for the speed of sound, determine the amplitude (in m) of the simple harmonic motion.

Homework Equations


f(obs)= f(source) (1-(v(obs)/v))
ω=2\pi/T
v(max)=Aω

The Attempt at a Solution


When I inquired about help I was told that I need to combine the equations for the max and min frequencies to get the maximum velocity, but I can't figure out how to do that. I am also not sure what to do with the difference of the max and min frequencies that was given in the problem. I have figured the value of ω to be 2.86 rad/s.

I think I would use the equation v(max)=Aω once I had the max velocity to get the amplitude.

I feel like this problem should be easier but I just can't figure it out!
 
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combine the equations for the max and min frequencies
Write your dopplar equation twice, once with positive Vo and again with negative Vo. One gives the maximum frequency observed, the other the minimum, so the difference between the two is your 1.83 Hz. That's your clue to subtract the two equations. I think you will be able to get Vo out of that.

Regarding the amplitude, I wonder if you have an equation something like
x = A*sin(ωt) for the position as a function of time. And can differentiate it with respect to time to get a similar equation for the velocity. The two of them would constitute a relationship between the amplitude and the maximum velocity.
 
Thank you so much! I just subtracted the min frequency from the max and set it equal to 1.83 Hz.

I did, however, use the v(max)=Aω to find the amplitude, but versus time the other equation would have worked better.

:)
 
Most welcome!
v(max)=Aω comes from differentiating x = A*sin(ωt).
 
Didn't even notice that, I haven't thought about differentiation (or calculus) in a few semesters :)
 

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