Dynamic Rotation Total Torque Calculation

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total torque, kinetic moment, and acceleration of a system involving two blocks and a pulley. The user outlines their approach using free body diagrams and equations of motion, but encounters confusion regarding the torque acting on the system versus the pulley alone. It is clarified that the problem requires considering the angular momentum of the entire system relative to the origin and the impact of external torques. The user ultimately seeks to correct their calculations to align with the expected results. Understanding the distinction between system torque and pulley torque is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


Two blocks of mass m1=3kg and m2=5kg are linked by a cord passing through a pulley of radius R=8cm and of mass M=4kg. We neglect friction and we assimilate the pulley to a disk. We place the origin at the center of the pulley.

a) what is the total torque on the system?
b) what is the kinetic moment (I hope I translated it correctly..its moment cinetique in french) of the system when the blocks have a speed of v?
c) Find the acceleration of the blocs by applying the equation torque(ext)=dL/dt.


Homework Equations


torque(ext)=dL/dt
T1-T2= Ia
a = alpha * r


The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a fbd and came up with this:

m1: T1-m1*g=m1*a
m2: m2*g - T2 = m2*a
pulley: T2 - T1 = I(alpha)

I figured i'd try to isolate alpha and then substitute it in the equation T1-T2 to find the torque.

m2*g - m2*a - (m1*a + m1*g) = I * alpha
5 * 9.8 - 5a - 3a - 3*9.8 = (1/2)MR^2 * alpha
49 - 8a - 29.4 = (1/2)4*0.08^2 * alpha
19.6 - 8a = 0.0128 * alpha
19.6 - 8(alpha*r) = 0.0128 *alpha
19.6 - .64alpha = 0.0128alpha
19.6 = 0,6528alpha
alpha = 30

Substitute alpha in the equation torque = T2 - T1

19.6 - .64 * 30 = 0.4 <-- this is wrong..it should be 1.57
 
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You are being asked for the torque acting on the system, not the torque acting on the wheel. This problem is a but unusual. It wants you to look at the angular momentum of the whole system relative to the origin and the effect of external torques acting on that system
 
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