Dynamics: Time taken for Block A to slide on Block B

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time it takes for block A to slide 0.5 meters on block B, considering their masses and the effects of friction. Initial equations were set up for both blocks, but the user struggled with the correct application of forces and signs, particularly regarding the direction of acceleration and the impact of block A's weight on block B. Key points raised include the need to accurately account for frictional forces and the relationship between the accelerations of both blocks. After adjustments to the equations, the user still faced issues with obtaining a non-zero acceleration. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying Newton's laws and understanding the interactions between the two blocks.
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Homework Statement


Find the time it takes for block A to slide 0.5m on block B.
Mass A=10 kg
Mass B=35 kg
I included a screen shot from my online homework.

Homework Equations


FR=FNμk

The Attempt at a Solution


For Block A:
mAa=T-FRA-WAsin(30)
T=10a+68.67

For Block B:
FRC=(mAg+mBg)μBC
FRA=mAAB
mBa=T+FRC-FRA-WAsin(30)-WBsin(30)

After substituting in all my values:
35a=T-196.2
T=35a+196.2

Setting my Tensions equal to each other:
10a+68.67=35a+196.2

magnitude of a=5.1012

Finding time:
s-s0=0.5at2+v0t
s0=0
v0t=0

0.5=.5(5.1012)t2

t=0.443s

Which is wrong... I can't figure out what exactly I'm doing wrong.
 

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jdawg said:
For Block B:
FRC=(mAg+mBg)μBC
FRA=mAgμAB
mBa=T+FRC-FRA-WAsin(30)-WBsin(30)
(1) Careful with signs: What are the directions of those frictional forces on block B?
(2) Careful with signs: What is the direction of the acceleration of block B? (Since you use "a" as the magnitude of the acceleration, apply the signs correctly.)
(3) Why does the weight of A enter into an equation for B?
 
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Ok, I see what you mean with the friction forces.
Does the weight of block A not put a force on block B?
 
jdawg said:
Does the weight of block A not put a force on block B?
Certainly block A exerts both a normal force and a friction force on block B. But the weight of block A is a force that acts on block A, not B.
 
Ok! So my new equation for B is this:
mBa=T+mBAB+mBBC-mBgsin(30)

Plugging in values...
T=35a+68.67

I still think I messed up, when I set these equations equal to each other, my acceleration ends up being 0 :(
 
jdawg said:
Ok! So my new equation for B is this:
mBa=T+mBgμAB+mBgμBC-mBgsin(30)
Note my previous item (2): Take care with the sign of the acceleration. There is a constraint: If block A moves up the incline, how must block B move?
 
I agree that block B should move down the incline. I'm not sure which part of my equation you're saying needs the sign change.
 
jdawg said:
I agree that block B should move down the incline. I'm not sure which part of my equation you're saying needs the sign change.
Block A has acceleration of magnitude "a" going up the incline; Block B has the same magnitude of acceleration going down the incline. Adjust your signs accordingly. (Compare the direction of acceleration with the directions of the forces.)
 
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