Effect of dropping putty on a block doing SHM

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The problem involves a block attached to a spring performing simple harmonic motion (SHM) and the qualitative effects of a piece of putty dropped onto the block. The discussion focuses on two scenarios: when the block is moving past its equilibrium position and when it is at maximum displacement. Participants are exploring the implications of an inelastic collision on the system's amplitude and period of oscillation.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the collision and its impact on energy conservation, questioning how the putty's potential energy converts to kinetic energy and its effect on the oscillator's amplitude. There is also inquiry into the relationship between mass and period in a spring-mass system.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between mass and period, noting that an increase in mass leads to an increase in period. Others are considering the implications of the inelastic collision on the mechanical energy of the system and whether the amplitude changes as a result. The distinction between the two cases is still under exploration.

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Participants are working within the constraints of qualitative analysis and are encouraged to consider the effects of the collision without resolving the overall energy changes or outcomes.

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Hi

here's the problem i need help with.

a block is attached to a spring and performs SHM along a horizontal straight line. a piece of
putty is dropped vertically so that it sticks to the block when it lands on it. refer to the attached figure.
Discuss qualitatively the effects of this, if any, on the amplitude and the period of oscillation in the following two separate cases in which the putty lands on the block.
a) when the block moves past its equilibrium position
b) when the block is momentarily at rest at maximum displacement.

now here's what i think. since the putty sticks to the block, its an inelastic collision.
so the energy is not conserved. energy is lost in heat. now E=(1/2)k A^2 when the block is at maximum displacement, where A is the amplitude. since spring is not changed, k will not change, so for E to decrease, A must decrease. so as a result amplitude will decrease.
is this correct ? also i am not able to say what will happen to the period and what would be the difference between questions a) and b).

please help
Issace n

 

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Do you have an expression for the period (or frequency) of a spring-mass system? What happens to this expression if the mass is made larger?

You are correct in viewing this as an inelastic collision that does not conserve mechanical energy. However, the energy stored in the oscillator is not the only mechanical energy there is. The putty also has potential energy initially which is converted to kinetic energy just before it hits. So while the total initial mechanical energy of oscillator plus putty decreases in this inelastic collision, the oscillator's mechanical energy depends only on the amplitude of the oscillator. Does the amplitude of this oscillator change after the collision?
 
kuruman said:
Do you have an expression for the period (or frequency) of a spring-mass system? What happens to this expression if the mass is made larger?

You are correct in viewing this as an inelastic collision that does not conserve mechanical energy. However, the energy stored in the oscillator is not the only mechanical energy there is. The putty also has potential energy initially which is converted to kinetic energy just before it hits. So while the total initial mechanical energy of oscillator plus putty decreases in this inelastic collision, the oscillator's mechanical energy depends only on the amplitude of the oscillator. Does the amplitude of this oscillator change after the collision?

sorry for the late response. was out of town. now
w^2 = k/m. So T= 2*pi / w ---> T= (2*pi) sqrt(m/k). so I see that if mass increases, period should increase.
since putty also has kinetic energy at the moment of hitting the block, we don't know if the energy of the system (block+putty) will increase or decrease even though its an inelastic collision, right ?
also how do we distinguish between case a) and case b).

Regards
Issac
 
please help me on this problem
 
You are correct, sir Isaac, about the change in frequency. For the other qualitative question, use momentum conservation to consider the velocity change of the oscillator from immediately before to immediately after the putty sticks. The key question is, does the collision add or subtract from the initial energy of the oscillator? Note that in case (a) the block may be moving up or down past the equilibrium position, while in case (b) the oscillator is instantaneously at rest when the collision occurs.
 

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