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The discussion centers on integrating the function x^4/Sqrt((1-x^2)^3) using substitution methods. Participants suggest using the sine substitution, x = sin(t), which leads to an integral involving sin^4(t) and cos^5(t). There is debate over the necessity of considering the sign of cos(t) during integration, with clarification that it is essential to avoid incorrect results. Ultimately, the integration simplifies significantly within the interval where cos(t) is positive, allowing for straightforward calculations. The conversation concludes with a resolution that the integration can be completed correctly using the discussed techniques.
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A have to integrate x^4/Sqrt((1-x^2)^3)

I tried x = Sint, but it didn't help me.
What kind of substitution I should use?
 
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Yegor said:
A have to integrate x^4/Sqrt((1-x^2)^3)

I tried x = Sint, but it didn't help me.
What kind of substitution I should use?

Yes,it can help u.4 times partial integration + watch oiut woth the signs and u'll get the result.

Daniel.
 
Hm.
I don't see even how to integrate dx/Sqrt((1-x^2)^3). (If i correctly understood Your idea)
Tehere should be any substitution
 
Yes,the "sine" substitution will get u
\int \frac{\sin^{4}t}{\cos^{5}t} dt

,which can be solved via partial integration & simple fractions.

Daniel.

EDIT:DISREGARD THIS MESSAGE,PLEASE! :redface:
 
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No. "Sine" substitution gave me (Sint)^4/(Cost)^2
x=Sint
dx=Cost dt
 
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What??
(1-x^{2})^{3}\rightarrow \cos^{6}t agree??

dx\rightarrow \cos t \ dt

x^{4}\rightarrow \sin^{4}t

Make the proper ratio & u'll see that i was right.

Daniel.
 
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x=sin(t)
\frac{x^{4}}{\sqrt{(1-x^{2})^{3}}}=\frac{\sin^{4}{t}}{\sqrt{\cos^{6}t}}=\frac{\sin^{4}t}{|\cos^{3}t|}
 
UUUUUUUUUPS,i didn't see the sqrt... :blushing:

Daniel;
 
Arildno, i think you have forgotten dx= Cost dt
 
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He hasn't he didn't deal with the "dx",just with the ratio...

Daniel.
 
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Yegor said:
Arildno, i think you have forgotten dx= Cost dt
The one thing missing in your account, is the absolute value sign.
You should end up with:
\int{sign}(\cos{t})\frac{\sin^{4}t}{\cos^{2}t}dt
 
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Anyway,the advice with partial integration is still valid.U'll need the double angle formula,though.

Daniel.
 
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I think I do not need partial integration. I can (Cost)^2=1-(Sint)^2 and then divide.
There are rather simple integrals.

But I really don't understand why I must take into account sign(cost).
I have never seen anything similar
 
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Alternatively, you may rewrite this expression in terms of the tangent function.
 
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Yegor said:
I think I do not need partial integration. I can (Cost)^2=1-(Sint)^2 and then divide.
There are rather simple integrals.

But I really don't understand why I must take into account sign(cost).
I have never seen anything similar
Well, you'll get wrong results if you don't.

It doesn't provide you with anymore trouble, though:
In regions when cos(t)>0, sign(cos(t))=1, whereas when cos(t)<0, sign(cos(t))=-1
 
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I finally got the result. And it is correct! Thank You all.
 
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Yes,Arildo,things are much more simple that they were.U've forgotten where he started from
\sqrt{(1-x^{2})^{3}}

into reals has sense only for -1&lt;x&lt;+1 [/tex]<br /> <br /> Making the substitution<br /> x\rightarrow \sin t<br /> <br /> &quot;t&quot; must be in this interval and other (dictated by the periodicity of &quot;sine&quot;)<br /> -\frac{\pi}{2}&amp;lt;t&amp;lt;+\frac{\pi}{2}<br /> <br /> where the cosine is strictly POSITIVE.No need for modulus... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=":wink:" /> It can be proven that in all other real intervals where &quot;sine t&quot; obeys the inequality<br /> -1&amp;lt;\sin t&amp;lt;+1<br /> <br /> the cosine is positive strictly.<br /> <br /> Daniel.
 
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Oh, dear..the shame of it..:redface: (goes back to my bucket)
 
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