Elastic collision, one dimension

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The problem involves an elastic collision scenario with three blocks of different masses on a frictionless surface. Block A, with mass m, is moving towards block B, which has mass 2m, while block C has mass m and is initially at rest. The objective is to determine the final velocities of each block after all collisions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation and the equations for elastic collisions. Some compare the velocities before and after collisions, while others question the validity of the momentum conservation in their calculations.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing dialogue about the correctness of the calculated velocities and the application of conservation laws. Some participants express confidence in their answers, while others seek verification and clarification on specific calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in momentum conservation and the implications of negative velocities in their calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all assumptions and definitions are clearly understood and correctly applied.

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Homework Statement



bloks b and c have m asses 2m and m respecti vely, and are at rest on a firctionless surface

black a also of mass m.. is heading at speed v toward block b as show... determine te final velocity of each block after alll subsequent collisions are over, assum all collision are elastic

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Homework Equations

v_1f = (m_1-m_2/(m_1+m_2)) * v_1i + (2m_2/(m_1+m_2)) * v_2i

and

v_2f = (2m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_1i + (m_2-m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_2i

The Attempt at a Solution



i compared block A when it hits block B and then compared block C when block B hits it..

i got...

(m-2m / 2m+ m) * v

block a) - 1/3 v

found block b's v_i before it hits block c to be 2/3 v

(2m - m / 3m) *2/3v

block b) 2/9 v

(2*2m / 3m) *2/3v

block c) 8/9v
i feel confident these answers are right but just trying to see what others think
 
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nightshade123 said:

Homework Statement



bloks b and c have m asses 2m and m respecti vely, and are at rest on a firctionless surface

black a also of mass m.. is heading at speed v toward block b as show... determine te final velocity of each block after alll subsequent collisions are over, assum all collision are elastic

aaaaaaa.jpg


Homework Equations




v_1f = (m_1-m_2/(m_1+m_2)) * v_1i + (2m_2/(m_1+m_2)) * v_2i

and

v_2f = (2m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_1i + (m_2-m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_2i

The Attempt at a Solution



i compared block A when it hits block B and then compared block C when block B hits it..

i got...

block a) - 1/3 v

found block b's v_i before it hits block c to be 1/3 v

Before a and b collide their total momentum is m_a * v

After the collision of a and b if v_a = -1/3 and v_b = 1/3

m_a*v_a + m_b*v_b = 1/3 m_a * v so momentum wasn't conserved
 
mv + mv = mv + mv
ai -- bi -- af --bf
1 + 0 = 1/3 + 2/3

1 = 1 = momentum conservation...

negative for direction
 
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anyone verify my answer?
 
nightshade123 said:
mv + mv = mv + mv
ai -- bi -- af --bf
1 + 0 = 1/3 + 2/3

1 = 1 = momentum conservation...

negative for direction

you had -1/3v for the speed of a. -1/3 + 2/3 isn't equal to 1.
If you substitute the right values in the formula for v2_f that you gave, you should get
the right value for the speed of b after the first collision.
 
v_2f = (2m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_1i + (m_2-m_1/(m_1+m_2)) * v_2i

v_2f = (2*m / 3m) * v + 0

v_2f = 2/3v
 
i think my answers now are correct, and the negitive on the 1/3 is for direction, doesn't mean that momentum is not being conserved
 
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nightshade123 said:
i think my answers now are correct, and the negitive on the 1/3 is for direction, doesn't mean that momentum is not being conserved
True.
 

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