Elastic deformation is time-indipendent

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of elastic deformation and its relationship to time, particularly whether elastic deformation can be considered time-independent. Participants explore the definitions and implications of elastic versus plastic deformation, referencing specific behaviors of materials under load.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the statement "elastic deformation is time-independent," seeking clarification.
  • Another participant asserts that elastic deformation occurs instantaneously upon load application and remains unchanged thereafter, suggesting it is independent of time.
  • A third participant introduces the concept of "creep," indicating it refers to permanent deformation over time, which contrasts with elastic deformation.
  • Further, a participant explains that elastic deformation is proportional to the applied load and that the final deformation depends solely on the final load, regardless of the rate of load application, reinforcing the idea of time independence.
  • Another participant notes that creep involves gradual permanent deformation without an increase in applied load, highlighting its relevance in specific materials under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the implications of time in elastic deformation. While some agree on the time-independent nature of elastic deformation, others introduce concepts like creep that complicate the discussion, indicating a lack of consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the definitions or implications of elastic versus plastic deformation, nor does it clarify the conditions under which these behaviors are observed in real materials.

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Elastic deformation (which is an idealization of actual behavior) is instantaneous. That is, it occurs immediately upon application of the load and is unchanged thereafter. In that sense, it is independent of time.
 
See "creep."
 
Creep (i.e., permanent or plastic deformation over relatively long time scales) excludes elastic deformation but is one component of how all real materials actually behave.
 
mech-eng said:
Elastic deformation is time-indipendent."

Elastic deformation is proportional to applied load . The final deformation only depends on the final load . Within some practical limits it does not matter how fast or how slow the load is applied - the final deformation will always be the same if the final load is the same . Elastic deformation is therefore time independent .

Creep is gradual continually increasing permanent deformation without increase of the applied load . A common problem with special aerospace alloys working at higher stress levels and higher temperatures .
 
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