Electric Fields ( i attached a file)

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The discussion focuses on understanding the electric field equations related to electric dipoles, particularly the contributions from positive and negative charges. The user seeks clarification on why the electric field components for the negative charge are expressed with negative signs in the equations. It is noted that the electric field from a negative charge points towards the charge, leading to negative components in the vector representation. Additionally, the user encounters challenges with integrating equations and applying them to a specific problem involving a uniformly charged semicircular rod. The conversation highlights the complexities of electric field calculations and the importance of correctly interpreting vector components.
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Hi, my question isn't actually over a particular homework problem, I've attached a file of my notes on electric field, electric dipoles, i don't quite understand why the equation of the electric field is setup that way for the negative charge.

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can someone help me out:smile:
 
I'd love to help, but I'm unable to open the file
 
weird what error comes up? maybe it requires the latest adobe, my file is in pdf. Argh I am not sure what could be wrong

Is there a specific way to attach files in order for them to be posted correctly for this forum?
 
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There's nothing wrong with how you posted your file; attachments just need to be approved before they can be viewed. Done!

Now, what exactly is your question? What about that expression for the field of the dipole is unclear? It's just expressing the field as a vector sum of the components of the field from each charge. Since the field from a negative charge points towards the charge, both components of its field at point P are negative. (Note that E_- stands for the magnitude of the field at point P contributed by the negative charge.)
 
You could also have noted that the components in the x direction cancel each other out by simmetry, without having to worry about cosines ;)
 
Well to find the Electric Field u have to add the electric field for the postive and negative charge. For the xaxis i undestand that its in the positive direction so its Ecos(theta)i but howcome for the y direction its -esin(theta)j, is it because its goin down? Thats for the postive charge electric field. For the negative charge, i don't understand why its minus Ecos(theta)i and then minus Esin(theta)j. Basically could someone explain to me why for the negative charge according to the way its graphed, why its -Ecosthetai-Esinthetaj.:smile:
 
Ok, i actually just figured it out, thnx for the help anyhow,
 
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Im just having some trouble on figuring out how some of the components are and how there being used for this part of the notes ( i attached another file),
 

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Since E_+ = E_-, E_+ + E_- = E_+ + E_+ = 2 E_+ = 2 kq/D^2.
 
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ah i c thanks doc
 
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There was one more thing on that page that i don't quite get, when integrating equation 3 into equation 2, why is the a?d there? because E=F/q=kq/r^2x1/q, I am not quite sure on where and why the a/D is needed.

And then for this one particular problem, its very similar to the above problem, but i ran into a couple problems, 1 during the setup of the electric field equation, another when choosing the correct integral to use and lastly how R-L/Pie is used in the final Electric field equation.

The actual problem is:a uniformly charged insulating rod of length 14 cm is bent into the shape of a semcircle. The rod has a total charge of -7.5uC. Find the magnitude and direction of the electric field at 0, the center of the semicircle.

I wrote down on the scan on the things I am talking. There just 3 parts.
 

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